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Yer Maw
08-11-2019, 04:25 PM
Anyone watching?

klunderbunker
08-11-2019, 04:40 PM
I am. Much more enjoyably now that Peyton is here.

Yer Maw
08-11-2019, 04:46 PM
Shocked to see Edge get physical.

#AbsoluteUnit
08-11-2019, 04:48 PM
I'm here

#AbsoluteUnit
08-11-2019, 04:53 PM
Those 3D match graphics look awesome

klunderbunker
08-11-2019, 04:54 PM
Those 3D match graphics look awesome

They will mess you up live if you see a monitor.

#AbsoluteUnit
08-11-2019, 04:55 PM
They will mess you up live if you see a monitor.

How bad did it get you?

BaconBits
08-11-2019, 05:00 PM
Just turned it on. Was the preshow any good?

klunderbunker
08-11-2019, 05:04 PM
How bad did it get you?

Just once and it was when I saw a giant Asuka mask on a monitor and not in the stadium and my neck snapped around.


Just turned it on. Was the preshow any good?

Cruiserweight Title match was good. Edge interrupted Elias and speared him in a pretty big surprise.

Yer Maw
08-11-2019, 05:07 PM
Anyone else having problems with the network?

BaconBits
08-11-2019, 05:08 PM
Anyone else having problems with the network?

Mine seems to be working just fine. I’m on a Firestick.

#AbsoluteUnit
08-11-2019, 05:08 PM
Network is working great for me.

navi
08-11-2019, 05:09 PM
Evening all. Decided to give it a look in.

BaconBits
08-11-2019, 05:09 PM
Becky looks nice with a ponytail.

BaconBits
08-11-2019, 05:10 PM
Evening all. Decided to give it a look in.

Haven’t seen you around in a while.

How have ya been?

Sean Valjean
08-11-2019, 05:11 PM
Hello all!

When did Mike Rome turn Super Saiyan?

navi
08-11-2019, 05:11 PM
I'm taking a break, but my son is down there tonight so seeing if I can see him on TV once I do I can turn it off. LOL

klunderbunker
08-11-2019, 05:12 PM
Anyone else having problems with the network?

Yep.

navi
08-11-2019, 05:13 PM
No problems here but we our network is a cable channel. Never have issues.

klunderbunker
08-11-2019, 05:14 PM
I have abad feeling they're changing the title here.

#AbsoluteUnit
08-11-2019, 05:15 PM
I have abad feeling they're changing the title here.

Please no sir.

Sean Valjean
08-11-2019, 05:15 PM
The network is acting up for me too.

BaconBits
08-11-2019, 05:16 PM
I have abad feeling they're changing the title here.

It wouldn’t be the worst title change in the world, especially if the longer term plan is putting the belt back on Alexa.

#AbsoluteUnit
08-11-2019, 05:18 PM
especially if the longer term plan is putting the belt back on Alexa.

HA!

klunderbunker
08-11-2019, 05:20 PM
It wouldn’t be the worst title change in the world, especially if the longer term plan is putting the belt back on Alexa.

I doubt it at the moment, but it's not like Becky has a ton of competition.

Sean Valjean
08-11-2019, 05:23 PM
My dream is for Becky to retain, then Ronda Rousey makes her surprise return.

navi
08-11-2019, 05:24 PM
Was that an Irish flag I just saw.

#AbsoluteUnit
08-11-2019, 05:25 PM
Yes

Yer Maw
08-11-2019, 05:26 PM
Kayla is gorgeous

navi
08-11-2019, 05:27 PM
Oh that was just awful. I can't type worth shit tonight. Oh no not him. Jesus.

BaconBits
08-11-2019, 05:29 PM
If Dolph isn’t squashed in thirty seconds, they’re doing this wrong.

Sean Valjean
08-11-2019, 05:30 PM
Shawn owning Dolph just makes my soul smile.

#AbsoluteUnit
08-11-2019, 05:30 PM
If Dolph isn’t squashed in thirty seconds, they’re doing this wrong.

Preach.

klunderbunker
08-11-2019, 05:33 PM
Now since WWE is the only wrestling company that matters and has all the history, I'm sure they remember Goldberg's less than stellar reputation in Toronto.

Jack-Hammer
08-11-2019, 05:35 PM
He didn't head butt the locker room door and almost knock himself out. Good for Bill!!! Now let's see if he can avoid giving himself a concussion in the ring.

Sean Valjean
08-11-2019, 05:37 PM
Oh that spear was glorious.

navi
08-11-2019, 05:37 PM
That was short and sweet.

#AbsoluteUnit
08-11-2019, 05:38 PM
That was hilarious.

Jack-Hammer
08-11-2019, 05:38 PM
Quick and painless, I like that. That spear looked awesome, best one I've seen anybody do in years.

Sean Valjean
08-11-2019, 05:39 PM
KO beat Dolph faster. KO > Goldberg.

Yer Maw
08-11-2019, 05:39 PM
That spear was brutal

navi
08-11-2019, 05:39 PM
I spoke too soon.

BaconBits
08-11-2019, 05:40 PM
KO beat Dolph faster. KO > Goldberg.

But Goldberg squashed KO.

Sean Valjean
08-11-2019, 05:41 PM
That's how KO learned the art of the squash. Now one day Ziggler will squash someone *shudders*

Okay, this is hilarious.

Sean Valjean
08-11-2019, 05:42 PM
One more time! One more time!

BaconBits
08-11-2019, 05:43 PM
They should have had Gillberg come out the last time and spear Dolph.

Jack-Hammer
08-11-2019, 05:44 PM
Dude!! It's Rick James!!! The Super Freak himself!!!!

Sean Valjean
08-11-2019, 05:46 PM
Drake rocking Vince McMahon's old du rag.

klunderbunker
08-11-2019, 05:46 PM
The leather jacket works on Renee.

Jack-Hammer
08-11-2019, 05:46 PM
Kofi's gonna wake up one morning and find out he no longer has a chest of any kind. He'll be neck and stomach.

#AbsoluteUnit
08-11-2019, 05:50 PM
This should be good

Sean Valjean
08-11-2019, 05:50 PM
Ricochet rocking some SWEET Nightwing gear

BestSportsEntertainer
08-11-2019, 05:53 PM
"Your girl looks good, Graves"

Lol Renee Young

navi
08-11-2019, 05:53 PM
Wow I've missed a lot. They are actually relevant now.

#AbsoluteUnit
08-11-2019, 05:54 PM
Luke Gallows is looking like he's having a legit mid-life crisis

Sean Valjean
08-11-2019, 05:55 PM
Ricochet basically is the real-life Dick Grayson.

Yer Maw
08-11-2019, 05:57 PM
Ricochet looks stupid with his gear

Jack-Hammer
08-11-2019, 06:04 PM
Ricochet's doing the best job of selling an injury I've seen out of him yet.

#AbsoluteUnit
08-11-2019, 06:06 PM
I don't even know who is on RAW and SmackDown anymore.

Sean Valjean
08-11-2019, 06:07 PM
That was a SICK counter.

Jack-Hammer
08-11-2019, 06:08 PM
The counter into the Styles Clash was marvelous. The timing was just perfect.

Jack-Hammer
08-11-2019, 06:09 PM
Damn Velcro makes the belts look cheap.

BestSportsEntertainer
08-11-2019, 06:09 PM
Fine match, but honestly I expected a lot more from Styles vs Ricochet.

klunderbunker
08-11-2019, 06:10 PM
That finish looked great.

navi
08-11-2019, 06:11 PM
Good God.

BestSportsEntertainer
08-11-2019, 06:18 PM
I love Bayley, but it's hilarious how Canada randomly dislikes her

#AbsoluteUnit
08-11-2019, 06:19 PM
This match has absolutely zero heat.

BaconBits
08-11-2019, 06:20 PM
This match has absolutely zero heat.

One of them has no real gimmick and the other’s gimmick is autistic preteen. That might have a lot to do with it.

Sean Valjean
08-11-2019, 06:22 PM
This match has absolutely zero heat.

To be fair, the entire story of the match is basically just:

Bayley: "I'm giving you a title shot"

Ember: "Ok"

They haven't given the ladies much to work with in the story department.

Jack-Hammer
08-11-2019, 06:23 PM
Pretty weak stuff in this match so far.

navi
08-11-2019, 06:26 PM
Crowd was dead during that. Strange for Toronto.

Sean Valjean
08-11-2019, 06:27 PM
Can Asuka please just kick Bayley's head off and take the title? No? Ok then...

BestSportsEntertainer
08-11-2019, 06:27 PM
I should be used to it, but these shows are always such a letdown after Takeover

#AbsoluteUnit
08-11-2019, 06:27 PM
All champs so far have retained thus far.

navi
08-11-2019, 06:27 PM
It's because she is boring. Her gimmick hasn't changed since she started. Best thing she could do is grow up a little.

Jack-Hammer
08-11-2019, 06:27 PM
Weird match. The ladies tried but there was just no real heat here, no reason to invest. Bayley never appeared to be in trouble, nor did the "build up" of this match do anything to suggest she might be. Ultimately, this match was high profile filler.

Sean Valjean
08-11-2019, 06:33 PM
It's because she is boring. Her gimmick hasn't changed since she started. Best thing she could do is grow up a little.

We need her to grow from "plucky kid" Bayley to "cynical teenager smoking joints after school" Bayley.

#AbsoluteUnit
08-11-2019, 06:33 PM
It's sad Shane is the top heel on SmackDown.

BestSportsEntertainer
08-11-2019, 06:35 PM
Shane actually got a few chants.

At least some people know who's really the "Best in the World"

Sean Valjean
08-11-2019, 06:35 PM
KO giving Shane a Sami Zayn-calibur beatdown and writing him off TV would be lovely.

BestSportsEntertainer
08-11-2019, 06:36 PM
Owens should win in about 30 seconds.

Jack-Hammer
08-11-2019, 06:39 PM
Nobody in WWE history sweats as much in as little time as Shane McMahon, except possibly for Brock Lesnar.

navi
08-11-2019, 06:41 PM
Or become vaping Bayley. Anything.

Sean Valjean
08-11-2019, 06:52 PM
I'm still shocked that Joe actually cared about Roman and didn't just put the Clutch on him.

Sean Valjean
08-11-2019, 06:57 PM
No video package for a legit dream match?

Yer Maw
08-11-2019, 06:57 PM
It's the battle of plastic surgeries!

Yer Maw
08-11-2019, 07:13 PM
Wow, I don't remember Trish being this good!

Sean Valjean
08-11-2019, 07:14 PM
That was probably the match of the night so far. Had me invested more than anything else and Trish looked way better than I expected. Awesome job, ladies.

navi
08-11-2019, 07:15 PM
I was suprised as well. Toronto loves Trish.

BaconBits
08-11-2019, 07:17 PM
I’m guessing that’s it for Trish.

Sean Valjean
08-11-2019, 07:19 PM
Heck of a match to go out on if so.

navi
08-11-2019, 07:19 PM
Yeah I think she said that was her last match. I see her in the grocery store from time to time, she's really nice in person.

Sean Valjean
08-11-2019, 07:22 PM
This is the best built match of the night.

Sean Valjean
08-11-2019, 07:27 PM
Kofi brought his family ringside during an Orton match? Has he not seen what's happened to Cena's dad?

navi
08-11-2019, 07:44 PM
Can someone please RKO Corey Graves for me.

klunderbunker
08-11-2019, 07:52 PM
I'm a bit behind but Trish has said that's it for her.

navi
08-11-2019, 07:53 PM
Note to all wrestlers : Do not wear white shorts.

BaconBits
08-11-2019, 07:54 PM
Bray about to squash Finn into vacation.

Yer Maw
08-11-2019, 07:56 PM
This entrance is amazing and so is that lamp!

Sean Valjean
08-11-2019, 07:56 PM
That severed head lantern is wonderfully creepy.

BestSportsEntertainer
08-11-2019, 07:57 PM
This is awesome

Sean Valjean
08-11-2019, 07:58 PM
Strange to see Finn taken aback by a spooky entrance.

BaconBits
08-11-2019, 08:02 PM
See ya at the Rumble Finn.

BestSportsEntertainer
08-11-2019, 08:03 PM
As I've said before, Wyatt has the most potential of anyone in wrestling.

Sean Valjean
08-11-2019, 08:04 PM
Just send Bray after Kofi already.

Yer Maw
08-11-2019, 08:06 PM
Be interesting to see how they fuck the fiend up. If he's not been the champion by the end of the year i give up.

BestSportsEntertainer
08-11-2019, 08:13 PM
If Brock wins we riot.

No you won't.

klunderbunker
08-11-2019, 08:14 PM
Fiend isn't a World Champion style character and that's better for him.

BaconBits
08-11-2019, 08:17 PM
Brock brutalizing dudes is what professional wrestling is all about.

Yer Maw
08-11-2019, 08:25 PM
My ribs are really hurt. I know what I'll do! A splash through a table!

Sean Valjean
08-11-2019, 08:27 PM
HE DID IT!!

BaconBits
08-11-2019, 08:28 PM
HE DID IT!!

It’s a last ditch effort to get him over. He’s one of the worst drawing champions of all time.

BestSportsEntertainer
08-11-2019, 08:31 PM
Brock should've never won the belt back, but that was awesome.

Sean Valjean
08-11-2019, 08:32 PM
It’s a last ditch effort to get him over. He’s one of the worst drawing champions of all time.

Yup, but I was convinced we were in for a 3rd straight fall season with Brock as champ so I'm pleasantly surprised.

BestSportsEntertainer
08-11-2019, 08:42 PM
I'm surprised Reigns didn't have a match.

klunderbunker
08-11-2019, 08:43 PM
Summerslam 2019
Date: August 11, 2019
Location: Scotiabank Arena, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Commentators: Michael Cole, Corey Graves, Renee Young, Byron Saxton, Tom Phillips

This is finally the end of the parade of summer shows and we’re going out with not quite a bang. The card hasn’t felt the most interesting but that has been the case for a long time now. Since two matches were added to the Kickoff Show earlier in the day, we’re up to a nine match card, which isn’t the biggest lineup in the world. I’m not sure what to expect from the results but the level of interest has some work to do. Let’s get to it.

Click on the link below for the full review.

The Summertime Purples (http://kbwrestlingreviews.com/2019/08/11/summerslam-2019-the-summertime-purples/)

Sean Valjean
08-11-2019, 08:46 PM
Also, I really appreciate that WWE didn't have Cole explain to us the clear symbolism in the Fiend's lantern and allowed us to draw our own conclusions (for now).

Jack-Hammer
08-12-2019, 05:26 AM
I missed the last three matches due to a power outage last night and, to no surprise, a novel's worth of four letter words didn't have much effect. The power did eventually come back on and I saw the rest of the show just a bit ago.

There wasn't a whole lot of pure greatness on last night's show, but it was overall quite solid. Nothing was really bad, though the SmackDown Women's Championship match was worse than I was expecting. I didn't catch the kickoff show as I just wasn't interested, I knew Lorcan didn't have a chance of beating Gulak and that was the only match I knew that would be there. One thing that I enjoyed about last night's show was that there weren't matches added for the sake of there being matches, at least not on the main card. There were no IC or Tag Team Championship matches as they weren't really needed right now, set 'em up for next time or have more stuff go down on TV. No match for Roman Reigns or Daniel Bryan either which, again, feels right as i just don't see the point of adding matches to cards just for the sake of having more. The show was much easier to get through than I thought it would be, certainly more so than the a number of past shows, especially the bigger shows, over the past few years.

The Raw Women's Championship match was nice and physical, featuring some great storytelling and I loved that they kept the emphasis on the submission stipulation.

This was the best Natalya has looked since her days of trying to become inaugural NXT Women's Champion. Goldberg vs. Ziggler went down exactly as I figured it would. Ziggler sold the hell out of those spears, the first and third ones he took looked fantastic. The live crowd ate this up and I'm sure quite a few via the network did as well.

I thought Styles vs. Ricochet was a fun bout and that counter at the end of the into he Styles Clash was sick looking. Styles needed to retain as the Club doesn't need losses at this point in time.

The SD Women's Championship was the weakest thing on the entire card, there just wasn't any heat or chemistry between Bayley and Ember.

Kevin Owens vs. Shane McMahon featured some fun storytelling and gave a very crowd pleasing ending, it's what needed to happen and it's what we got.

The match of the night went to Charlotte and Trish, great work from the ladies with some great storytelling.

Kofi Kingston vs. Randy Orton was a very solid outing overall and I didn't mind the ending to be honest as I figure it'll lead to some sort of street fight/no DQ situation next time around, which is needed as Orton's pacing just doesn't work in this day and age. Nothing wrong with a methodical pace, but Jesus Christ man it's just too much.

Finn Balor vs. Bray Wyatt was too short to really rate but the Fiend looked downright awesome. He came off, to me, like a mixture of Bray's classic character, Mankind and a dash of the Undertaker. I'm sooooooo glad he wrestled in the mask as I wasn't sure if he would, I have no idea how easy or hard it is to breathe in the mask, but the match was exactly what it needed to be.

Seth Rollins vs. Brock Lesnar was a great sprint and it gave Rollins what I think is his first definitive win against Lesnar, which surprised me. Given Seth getting beaten down so much, this is the story they should've gone with for WrestleMania as it would've come off like a bigger deal. I'm burned out on Brock Lesnar as a champion and I'll take almost anyone as champ. I've enjoyed Rollins as champ as a whole and I definitely prefer him to Lesnar.

WWE Raw Women's Championship - Becky Lynch vs. Natalya - ***1/2
Singles Match - Goldberg vs. Dolph Ziggler - NA
WWE United States Championship - AJ Styles vs. Ricochet - ***3/4
WWE SmackDown Women's Championship - **1/4
Singles Match - Kevin Owens vs. Shane McMahon - ***
Singles Match - Charlotte Flair vs. Trish Stratus - ****
WWE Championship - Kofi Kingston vs. Randy Orton - ***
Singels Match - Finn Balor vs. Bray Wyatt - NA
WWE Universal Championship - Seth Rollins vs. Brock Lesnar - ***3/4

Overall Grade: B-