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#AbsoluteUnit
10-31-2019, 11:08 AM
I feel really bad I'm going to watch this.

uhh, Let's get to it.

BestSportsEntertainer
10-31-2019, 11:15 AM
I didn't expect this at all. Interesting that Cain would lose his first match that quickly.

BaconBits
10-31-2019, 11:19 AM
Well that feud is far from over.

BaconBits
10-31-2019, 11:22 AM
I just happen to be off from work today, and I totally forgot this was on until I saw somebody mention it on Twitter.

#AbsoluteUnit
10-31-2019, 11:23 AM
I should turn this off, Ziggler and rip-off Rick Rude Bobby Roode are on my screen.

BestSportsEntertainer
10-31-2019, 11:25 AM
Why would they ever have an injured Mysterio SAVE Cain Velasquez and chase off Lesnar? I don't get that at all.

BaconBits
10-31-2019, 11:25 AM
I should turn this off, Ziggler and rip-off Rick Rude Bobby Roode are on my screen.

Plus Vince loves blood money or something.

#AbsoluteUnit
10-31-2019, 11:26 AM
Why would they ever have an injured Mysterio SAVE Cain Velasquez and chase off Lesnar? I don't get that at all.

Because the fed is ded. And Logic!

BaconBits
10-31-2019, 11:27 AM
Why would they ever have an injured Mysterio SAVE Cain Velasquez and chase off Lesnar? I don't get that at all.

Beats me, but the story overall is pretty cool. It’ll be interesting to see where it goes from here.

#AbsoluteUnit
10-31-2019, 11:31 AM
Ryder completely whiffed that.

BestSportsEntertainer
10-31-2019, 11:34 AM
I can buy that Cain got caught or wasn't prepared or something along those lines. I'm not super interested in a rematch, but it had to be expected since Cain signed a multi-year deal.

But to have Rey Mysterio have to save him? Yes Rey is a legend, but he's 175 pounds. I don't buy for one second that he could take out Lesnar with an injured arm, and it really makes Cain look like shit.

BestSportsEntertainer
10-31-2019, 11:37 AM
*Otis takes off his shirt* "I'm not sure if that's legal in this country" LOL

BaconBits
10-31-2019, 11:39 AM
I can buy that Cain got caught or wasn't prepared or something along those lines. I'm not super interested in a rematch, but it had to be expected since Cain signed a multi-year deal.

But to have Rey Mysterio have to save him? Yes Rey is a legend, but he's 175 pounds. I don't buy for one second that he could take out Lesnar with an injured arm, and it really makes Cain look like shit.

No way is Rey 175. Heâ??s 5â??4â? and pretty lean, heâ??s like 140 soaking wet.

#AbsoluteUnit
10-31-2019, 11:41 AM
I saw one white guy so far

#AbsoluteUnit
10-31-2019, 11:42 AM
No way is Rey 175. He’s 5’4” and pretty lean, he’s like 140 soaking wet.

Kayfabe.

#AbsoluteUnit
10-31-2019, 11:57 AM
Love when champions get pinned.

BestSportsEntertainer
10-31-2019, 11:59 AM
Congratulations to the OC. Truly a career-defining victory. The other teams must be so disappointed.

Edit - I'm an idiot

#AbsoluteUnit
10-31-2019, 12:01 PM
So are we getting Rey vs Brock?

BaconBits
10-31-2019, 12:02 PM
So are we getting Rey vs Brock?

Eventually.

#AbsoluteUnit
10-31-2019, 12:06 PM
Graves: "Pound for pound, maybe the strongest in the WWE..."

He does know that Lesnar is a WWE employee, right?

BaconBits
10-31-2019, 12:17 PM
Graves: "Pound for pound, maybe the strongest in the WWE..."

He does know that Lesnar is a WWE employee, right?

Actual strongest guy there is Otis. That kid is a fucking animal.

#AbsoluteUnit
10-31-2019, 12:26 PM
Tonight is the first mention of Survivor Series.

#AbsoluteUnit
10-31-2019, 12:40 PM
Man, I'm usually quick to defend the WWE..... but this is really hard to watch

BestSportsEntertainer
10-31-2019, 12:42 PM
At least it's over

BestSportsEntertainer
10-31-2019, 12:43 PM
Heel turn for Strowman? Maybe a rematch?

#AbsoluteUnit
10-31-2019, 12:48 PM
No idea, but that was bad.

#AbsoluteUnit
10-31-2019, 02:31 PM
um, what?

klunderbunker
10-31-2019, 02:47 PM
Far better than I was expecting.

klunderbunker
10-31-2019, 02:47 PM
Crown Jewel 2019
Date: October 31, 2019
Location: King Fahd International Stadium
Commentators: Corey Graves, Michael Cole

This is one of those things that we just have to get through. The wrestling isn’t the problem here as the action will likely be acceptable enough. The problem is going to be some of the decisions that are made, as WWE tends to lose their minds around here. Couple that with the fact that this is going to be built around part time wrestlers and mainstream athletes. Let’s get to it.

Click on the link below for the full review.

I'll Admit It (https://kbwrestlingreviews.com/2019/10/31/crown-jewel-2019-ill-admit-it/)

#AbsoluteUnit
10-31-2019, 02:51 PM
Far better than I was expecting.

Agreed. Best Saudi show to date.

Jack-Hammer
10-31-2019, 03:03 PM
One positive to come out of this is Wyatt winning the Universal Championship. With that said, I really, really, really hope they don't do this sort of horror movie crap with all of his matches going forward because the formula just doesn't work as a whole. There's ssssssoooooooo much to like about the Fiend and Wyatt does such a great job, but this sort of set up with the lighting and the horror stuff during the matches can really bring the whole thing down.

I'm also hoping that WWE doesn't just have Wyatt drop the title back to Rollins in some quickie run that only winds up pissing people off and leaving them even more disenchanted. Of course, I guess that'd mean that Wyatt will be heading back to Raw while Lesnar stays on the blue brand.

From an overall standpoint, this wasn't a bad show, believe it or not, and easily the best of the Saudi shows. The special attraction matches were the usual pecker slaps in the face from Vince as he prefers style and pomp over depth. I mean, what can you expect when your special attraction matches each features someone who's getting paid upteen million dollars yet who can't wrestle. As far as I'm concerned, Velasquez can just go away and there's no point in furthering a program with Fury and Strowman. It really does continue to piss me off to know end that WWE has all this amazing talent on its roster but it constantly defers to using crap like 2 minute matches for Brock Lesnar and constantly going back to putting championships around his waist while he wrestles a grand total of maybe 7 to 10 times a year.

Probably the best match on the card was Mansoor vs. Cesaro as far as the live crowd goes. Of course, that's to be expected since WWE strolled out their token Saudi Arabian wrestler that they only seem to break out specifically for these Saudi shows. Do they keep him in some little room or shed somewhere the rest of the time?

The tag team turmoil match was pretty good and it's nice to see Gallows & Anderson go over here as they genuinely needed it. Gallows & Anderson haven't always been used well in WWE and while I still think they're pretty overrated rather than the gods they were hyped by so many New Japan marks, they're still a good team who bring a good deal to the table.

The US title match was a fun bout with the expected ending. There wasn't much fan reaction, there was some but I'm wondering if it had to do with the placement of the match or if they just weren't digging it. Either explanation is logical as Humberto Carillo, while a talented and young in-ring guy, is essentially a voiceless face at this point. The kid needs to learn to cut a promo, needs a mouthpiece or something otherwise he'll just languish in mid-card limbo.

The 10 man tag team match came off to me like little more than a love letter from WWE to Roman Reigns as they went out of their way to make him look like a mix of Superman and Zeus or something. It wasn't a bad match or anything, it just suffered from the other problems that plague these Saudi shows as most fans outside of Saudi Arabia just don't really care, nor are they really given much of a reason to.

The women's match featuring Natalya and Lacey Evans was what I figured it'd be. There were some young girls in the audience in the front row who were inspired by this whole thing and, in all seriousness, that's was pretty cool. It's true that we, those of us who post in here who're Americans, take our freedoms and rights for granted, what seems like a very minor thing to us can actually mean a great deal to others so seeing the genuine emotion on those young ladies' faces was something to see. I'm not saying it'll lead to anything or change the world or anything but no matter how you feel, WWE did accomplish a bit of something here today that a year ago nobody thought possible.

All in all, this show wasn't a failure as it had a lot of genuinely good things going on. I'm going with a C+, which surprised the hell out of me as I expected this to just suck big ol' sweaty balls. The tag team turmoil, 10 man tag, US title, Mansoor vs. Cesaro and Universal Championship matches were all either solid to really good and delivered some overall good outcomes. Bray Wyatt is now Universal Champion, so now we can only hope Vince doesn't just fornicate the poor guy to death with piss poor booking decisions. The women's match wasn't a classic or anyting, but it was a little bit of a moment in time in a part of the world where women are, frankly, often little more than factories for producing children.

Fallout
11-01-2019, 04:43 AM
Am I the only one who thinks The Fiend gimmick is laughably bad?

The Firefly Fun House stuff is pretty good, but the mask and pantaloons make him look like a Create a Wrestler I'd make when I was 10 years old.