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BaconBits
11-24-2019, 04:11 PM
I like beer.

#AbsoluteUnit
11-24-2019, 04:14 PM
same here

BaconBits
11-24-2019, 04:19 PM
I’ve heard Sami is actually this annoying IRL.

#AbsoluteUnit
11-24-2019, 04:23 PM
seems legit

BaconBits
11-24-2019, 04:31 PM
It’s hilarious how small the NXT guys look on the main roster.

#AbsoluteUnit
11-24-2019, 04:32 PM
Vanilla midgets!!

Jeff Deliverer of Mail
11-24-2019, 04:51 PM
Hey, The Fiend is Smackdown Womans Champion!

BaconBits
11-24-2019, 04:59 PM
Weebs will be all over themselves for the Womenâ??s SS match. All the waifus are in it.

BestSportsEntertainer
11-24-2019, 04:59 PM
Can't argue with this.

https://twitter.com/PeteDunneYxB/status/1198633619444715522

#AbsoluteUnit
11-24-2019, 05:01 PM
yup

Jeff Deliverer of Mail
11-24-2019, 05:01 PM
Nobody has better opening video segments.

BaconBits
11-24-2019, 05:02 PM
Can't argue with this.

https://twitter.com/PeteDunneYxB/status/1198633619444715522

That’s right up there with him weighing 500lbs.

BestSportsEntertainer
11-24-2019, 05:04 PM
The theme song is terrible.

#AbsoluteUnit
11-24-2019, 05:05 PM
I hate Michael Cole.

shafe_41
11-24-2019, 05:07 PM
Jesus they don't even get their own entrances.

shafe_41
11-24-2019, 05:07 PM
Also Rhea Ripley is an absolute fox

shafe_41
11-24-2019, 05:08 PM
Is Nattie the only one there that didn't come up through NXT?

#AbsoluteUnit
11-24-2019, 05:10 PM
Also Rhea Ripley is an absolute fox

BRO. Don't get me started

BestSportsEntertainer
11-24-2019, 05:16 PM
Standing ovation for the top heel in the match.

Well ok.

shafe_41
11-24-2019, 05:16 PM
BRO. Don't get me started

In order of hotness of this match... 1-13 is Rhea Ripley. #14 is Toni Storm. #15 is Dana Brooke. Always have had a soft spot for Dana

BaconBits
11-24-2019, 05:16 PM
Is Nattie the only one there that didn't come up through NXT?

Nattie is the only girl on the main roster that didn’t.

shafe_41
11-24-2019, 05:17 PM
So just how last night's match went. Rhea Ripley is going to get the last pin isn't she?

shafe_41
11-24-2019, 05:18 PM
Nattie is the only girl on the main roster that didn’t.

I think Tamina would also be in that discussion (if she's even still on the roster??)

BestSportsEntertainer
11-24-2019, 05:19 PM
I think Tamina would also be in that discussion (if she's even still on the roster??)

Shut up or I'll make you look like Ellsworth

shafe_41
11-24-2019, 05:25 PM
Honestly just surprised Dana didn't eat the first pin.

#AbsoluteUnit
11-24-2019, 05:29 PM
Natty: Bye, Bye Bitch

BestSportsEntertainer
11-24-2019, 05:30 PM
They really need to start having Takeover after these main roster PPVs.

BaconBits
11-24-2019, 05:31 PM
They must have got the hurry up sign from the back.

BestSportsEntertainer
11-24-2019, 05:36 PM
What is this booking lol

#AbsoluteUnit
11-24-2019, 05:37 PM
RHEA RIPLEY

BaconBits
11-24-2019, 05:38 PM
What is this booking lol

They wanted to keep Sasha looking strong while having NXT go over.

BestSportsEntertainer
11-24-2019, 05:38 PM
LeRae and Shirai's run-in was very anticlimatic and illogical. Ripley should've won 1-on-1.

shafe_41
11-24-2019, 05:38 PM
They really need to start having Takeover after these main roster PPVs.

Right? It's not even close how much better they are every. single. time.

shafe_41
11-24-2019, 05:40 PM
What other match did NXT win? I can't tune in for the pre-show. It's just too much for one night.

#AbsoluteUnit
11-24-2019, 05:40 PM
LeRae and Shirai's run-in was very anticlimatic and illogical. Ripley should've won 1-on-1.

Pretty much this, BSE

shafe_41
11-24-2019, 05:41 PM
Adam Cole would win the Slammy for biggest balls in the company. That's the second bump this year he took off the top of some cage.

BestSportsEntertainer
11-24-2019, 05:42 PM
Why is Seth dressed like Nikki Bella?

shafe_41
11-24-2019, 05:44 PM
Why is Seth dressed like Nikki Bella?

Best Comment of the Night

#AbsoluteUnit
11-24-2019, 05:44 PM
Why did I draft Nakamura as my 1st pick?

BaconBits
11-24-2019, 05:46 PM
LeRae and Shirai's run-in was very anticlimatic and illogical. Ripley should've won 1-on-1.

But then Sasha would have laid on the locker room floor and complained loudly.

BaconBits
11-24-2019, 05:49 PM
I’ve heard that they tried to give Roddy a personality, but even that was bored to tears by him

#AbsoluteUnit
11-24-2019, 05:50 PM
he's so freaking bland

BaconBits
11-24-2019, 05:53 PM
he's so freaking bland

Trips gotta learn to have some self control when it comes to signing vanilla midgets.

#AbsoluteUnit
11-24-2019, 05:56 PM
Trips gotta learn to have some self control when it comes to signing vanilla midgets.

Pretty much

BaconBits
11-24-2019, 06:06 PM
Ok, Iâ??m convinced that this show is going to end with Brock throwing Tripsâ?? herd of vanilla midgets comically far distances

BestSportsEntertainer
11-24-2019, 06:06 PM
Raw and SD's only hope is Lebron James

BestSportsEntertainer
11-24-2019, 06:08 PM
A no DQ match between Styles and Nakamura and not a single dick kick?

-5 stars

#AbsoluteUnit
11-24-2019, 06:10 PM
Raw and SD's only hope is Lebron James

This show is in Chicago, so SD's and RAW's only hope is the 2016 Cubs or the '85 Bears.

shafe_41
11-24-2019, 06:10 PM
How that dude is walking is amazing

BestSportsEntertainer
11-24-2019, 06:11 PM
This show is in Chicago, so SD's and RAW's only hope is the 2016 Cubs or the '85 Bears.

I propose an actual bear being released into the arena at a random time. Every NXT superstar must wear a meat collar.

#AbsoluteUnit
11-24-2019, 06:13 PM
I propose an actual bear being released into the arena at a random time. Every NXT superstar must wear a meat collar.

Now THAT is a hot take!

BaconBits
11-24-2019, 06:20 PM
Pro tip: Southern Tier’s Nu Juice IPA and Starburst is a surprisingly tasty combination.

BestSportsEntertainer
11-24-2019, 06:24 PM
Just in case you forgot who was wrestling and what show you were watching.

Jeff Deliverer of Mail
11-24-2019, 06:26 PM
Hell of a match.

shafe_41
11-24-2019, 06:28 PM
That was awesome for being on a WWE show. We know it still would have been better on a Takeover.

BestSportsEntertainer
11-24-2019, 06:29 PM
That was awesome for being on a WWE show. We know it still would have been better on a Takeover.

At least 10 stars in the Tokyo Dome

Jeff Deliverer of Mail
11-24-2019, 06:29 PM
I guess WWE doesn't let Kalisto wear his expensive mask at UNICEF so he had to make one out of paper.

BaconBits
11-24-2019, 06:29 PM
That was awesome for being on a WWE show. We know it still would have been better on a Takeover.

It would’ve looked largely the same on a Takeover, it just would have had even more kickouts.

Jeff Deliverer of Mail
11-24-2019, 06:31 PM
It would’ve looked largely the same on a Takeover, it just would have had even more kickouts.

And Mauro screaming like somebody lit him on fire while pulling his nails off.

BestSportsEntertainer
11-24-2019, 06:32 PM
And Mauro screaming like somebody lit him on fire while pulling his nails off.

I'll take him over Cole.

BestSportsEntertainer
11-24-2019, 06:32 PM
Cole and Dunne - We had the MOTN

The Fiend - Hold my severed head lantern

Jeff Deliverer of Mail
11-24-2019, 06:36 PM
Coolest entrance in wrestling.

#AbsoluteUnit
11-24-2019, 06:50 PM
I know the WWE wants Bray to be a big deal... but I just don't care.

shafe_41
11-24-2019, 06:56 PM
How many matches are left? This 15-man clusterfuck, the women's match, and Brock/Ron Mystery?

BestSportsEntertainer
11-24-2019, 06:57 PM
Ali and Shorty G look so out of place

shafe_41
11-24-2019, 06:58 PM
I love that their armbands for the brands all look like they were made five minutes before they went out to the ring with JoAnne Fabrics dumpster scraps.

#AbsoluteUnit
11-24-2019, 07:00 PM
Mix Faces with heels

shafe_41
11-24-2019, 07:03 PM
WHAT THE FUCK?????

BestSportsEntertainer
11-24-2019, 07:04 PM
Seriously... most over guy in the match is eliminated first?

BestSportsEntertainer
11-24-2019, 07:04 PM
Vince loves to troll us lol

shafe_41
11-24-2019, 07:07 PM
Vince loves to troll us lol

I can hear him now.
"WHADAYA MEAN HE DOESN'T HAVE A LAST NAME??? I GIVE YOU ONE WORD NAMES!! NOBODY ELSE!!! RUSEV!!! ALI!!! THAT'S MY GIMMICK!!! PUT HIM OUT OF THIS MATCH FIRST!!!"

BestSportsEntertainer
11-24-2019, 07:09 PM
This is... odd

shafe_41
11-24-2019, 07:11 PM
RK-BRO!!!!

shafe_41
11-24-2019, 07:14 PM
HOW THE FUCK ARE THERE COUNTOUTS IN A THREE WAY MATCH???

BestSportsEntertainer
11-24-2019, 07:14 PM
HOW THE FUCK ARE THERE COUNTOUTS IN A THREE WAY MATCH???

Same way there's referee stoppage inside Hell in a Cell.

WWE doesn't give a fuck.

shafe_41
11-24-2019, 07:15 PM
Shit like this is why every single Takeover is better.

shafe_41
11-24-2019, 07:17 PM
Same way there's referee stoppage inside Hell in a Cell.

WWE doesn't give a fuck.

I'll fight to the death a "ref stoppage" and not a "DQ" is at least explainable. Poorly. But explainable. But not a fucking countout, in a three way match, where Strowman was actually the one outside the ring for a shorter time.

shafe_41
11-24-2019, 07:29 PM
You know Vince is watching this thinking "Wow, this Lee Keith guy is pretty over!!! I'll have him jobbing to Apollo Crews in two years!"

shafe_41
11-24-2019, 07:29 PM
That ref is fired.

shafe_41
11-24-2019, 07:30 PM
Meanwhile, Keith Lee didn't kick out and Reigns gets counted to the mat when his blades weren't even on the mat.

BestSportsEntertainer
11-24-2019, 07:31 PM
Great match near the end. Really wanted Keith Lee to win, but I get it.

#AbsoluteUnit
11-24-2019, 07:31 PM
I have Rhea (of course) and Keith Lee. Not bad.

BestSportsEntertainer
11-24-2019, 07:33 PM
That was weak

#AbsoluteUnit
11-24-2019, 07:36 PM
Agreed. But she's a better promo than majority of the talent in the WWE. Take it as you will BSE!!!

BestSportsEntertainer
11-24-2019, 07:37 PM
Agreed. But she's a better promo than majority of the talent in the WWE. Take it as you will BSE!!!

I was talking about Lee and Reigns embracing after the match. Makes the loser look weak.

#AbsoluteUnit
11-24-2019, 07:38 PM
I was talking about Lee and Reigns embracing after the match. Makes the loser look weak.

Valid point.

BestSportsEntertainer
11-24-2019, 07:41 PM
Dumb prediction (because why not) - Dominic turns on Rey

#AbsoluteUnit
11-24-2019, 07:45 PM
Dumb prediction - Brock wins

#AbsoluteUnit
11-24-2019, 07:52 PM
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

BaconBits
11-24-2019, 07:53 PM
Brock trolling the crowd and the Mysterios will never not be hilarious.

#AbsoluteUnit
11-24-2019, 07:55 PM
That was hilarious, no lie.

Jeff Deliverer of Mail
11-24-2019, 07:56 PM
And I left Brock on the bench, oversight of the year.

#AbsoluteUnit
11-24-2019, 07:58 PM
Jeff!

Jeff Deliverer of Mail
11-24-2019, 07:59 PM
The hell is Bayley supposed to be now?

BaconBits
11-24-2019, 08:02 PM
Shayna has an air of legitimacy bout her character that not even Ronda had.

BestSportsEntertainer
11-24-2019, 08:33 PM
I'd give this show a D+. The wrestling was much better than that, but the booking was very confusing at best.

Jack-Hammer
11-25-2019, 02:57 AM
Shayna has an air of legitimacy bout her character that not even Ronda had.

It doesn't hurt that Baszler hasn't been "mainstreamed' the way Rousey was. During her MMA career, Rousey got as much attention, if not more attention, for her appearance as her abilities as a fighter. Rousey and her people further cultivated the "hot chick who can fight" image, not including posing in barely there or mostly see through swimwear for Sports Illustrated or swimwear that was body paint.

Jack-Hammer
11-25-2019, 03:58 AM
Survivor Series Kickoff Show:
1. Battle Royal: (5.0) - It was a space filler really. It had nearly every team on the roster, except the AOP, in a battle royal for the trophy Gallows & Anderson won in Saudi Arabia with Roode and Ziggler of all teams winning it.
2. Lio Rush vs. Akira Tozowa vs. Kalisto: (7.0) - Pretty good effort here and the fans were getting into it by the time it was over. Basically, it was your typical 205 Live match with more a bit more crowd interest with Rush winning and giving NXT its first win of the night.
3. New Day vs. the Viking Raiders vs. the Undisputed Era: (8.0) - Strong effort from all three teams. Everyone had a chance to shine and this was one of the few real chances we've had to see what the Raiders can really do in matches. Their win here, pinning the UE, gave Raw its one and only victory of the night.

Survivor Series Main Card:
1. Women's Survivor Series Tag Team Match: (8.0) - An entertaining outing from the women overall. I do wish Io Shirai and Candice LaRae, Shirai especially, had gotten more of a chance to show off what they can do but Ripley was designed to be the showcase here and I can't really complain much about that as the girl has knocked it out of the park every time she's been up to bat since coming to NXT. The booking of the egos over on Raw getting in the way, namely with Asuka spewing the green mist in Charlotte's eyes before walking out, made some sense and was also done to protect Charlotte. Of course, Asuka leaving on her own while Io & Candice were taking back for a medical check up is the hiccup in the logic of the story here as Asuka seemed to have been eliminated. Maybe it was because Asuka walked out voluntarily while io & Candice were medically cleared? Little explanations like that can go a long way and is a good example of the details that Raw and SmackDown just don't pay enough attention to. Ripley going over Sasha was very well received by the crowd, it was obvious the crowd was very pro NXT all night, but, as with Charlotte, Vince felt it necessary to protect Sasha.
2. AJ Styles vs. Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Roderick Strong: (8.0) - Really good effort from all three of WWE's mid-card champions. The new IC title looks fantastic, btw, and I was pleasantly surprised to see Strong get the win here. I just didn't expect Strong to go over here and the way he did it was somewhat reminiscent of his recent triple threat win over Keith Lee and Dijakovic in that he kinda snuck in at the end. Styles his Nakamura with the springboard flying forearm, Strong comes out of nowhere and dumps Styles outside, makes the cover and gets the win. NXT is up 3 matches after this, which saw them get better treatment than I expected and the best that either Raw or SmackDown could do was to tie them as there weren't enough brand vs. brand vs. brand matches for NXT to lose the lead.
3. NXT Championship: Adam Cole vs. Pete Dunne: (9.0) - Basically, WWE gave Cole and Dunne 15 minutes, told them to go out there and kill it and that's what they did. They delivered a show stealing performance that featured great, physical action, believable near falls and just two guys looking to outdo each other. I didn't really expect Dunne to win, but he came believably close several times.
4. WWE Universal Championship: "The Fiend" Bray Wyatt vs. Daniel Bryan: (7.5) - This was a pretty good match that considering how good the previous three matches had been, and how hot the crowd was for them, it was better than I was expecting. Nobody believed Bryan would win this match, so the key to it working at all was for Bryan to help not only make Wyatt look like a beast but to look good in defeat by giving out a valiant effort, which is exactly what happened. Even though everyone knew Bryan wasn't winning, the live crowd was very much behind him and into the match, really giving an indicator just how much fans really do love this guy. The match didn't try to overstay its welcome, there was good action, good storytelling, the crowd was digging everything despite knowing the outcome before the bell even rang, Wyatt retained and Bryan went out on his shield. Couldn't ask or realistically expect more.
5. Men's Survivor Series Tag Team Match: (8.5) - I felt this match was a bit better than the women's match. The action was pretty wild at times, which is what you'd expect, and NXT was given some real chances to shine, such as having Matt Riddle eliminating Randy Orton or Walter going toe to toe with Braun Strowman and coming out ahead. I would've liked seeing Walter stick around longer rather than being the first one out but it wasn't the end of the world. Ricochet and Chad Gable, lick my crack Vince because I ain't callin' him the awful name you picked for him, worked extremely well together, putting on a fast paced, athletic clash that made me wanna see these two lock horns sometime. Rollins looks to be slowly making his way towards a heel turn, Chicago was booing the crap out of him but, as you'd expect, it is CM Punk's hometown. Ultimately, egos would get in the way of the blue brand with Corbin and Reigns butting heads due to Corbin trying to run things. Corbin is eliminated due to Reigns, which pleased me to no end as the further we got into things, the more I was worried Corbin might be the lone survivor of his team. It ultimately came down to Roman Reigns and Keith Lee and the two powerhouses did a good job of making it seem like Lee had a shot. Reigns goes for the spear only to be intercepted by Lee who picks him up and delivers a helluva Spirit Bomb, which is basically a slight variation of the Last Ride, for a great near fall. Ultimately, Lee misses a moonsault attempt, Reigns hits the spear and gets the win. I could've done without the fist bump between Reigns and Lee at the end but I'm not all that surprised as Vince is said to be a big fan of Lee. The score after this is: Raw: 1 SmackDown: 2 NXT: 3
6. WWE Championship: Brock Lesnar vs. Rey Mysterio: (7.5) - This match was basically what I figured it'd be with Lesnar dominating Rey, Rey's som Dominic coming down and trying to help, eventually getting involved to help his father, the two of them beating up on Lesnar a bit, Lesnar rallying against their assault and ultimately nearly F-5ing Mysterio through the mat. The live crowd at this up and Dominic's interference and the now DQ stipulation as the only way this match had any chance of working out as nobody believed Mysterio a threat to Lesnar for a solitary second.
7. Becky Lynch vs. Bayley vs. Shayna Baszler: (7.0) - This was the weakest match on the main card and an odd choice for the main event. I'm all for the women getting shots in the main event position but this wasn't the match or the event in which it should happen even if they were the ones featured on the poster. The rah rah I am Woman, hear me roar stuff needs to be dialed back just a little. The women tried and delivered a decent outing but this match just didn't have the sort of physicality of the other matches and the crowd was also pretty gassed from the other really hot matches before this. The sense of urgency wasn't really there for this match but the women did put forth a good effort that the fans were responding to by the last 5 or 6 minutes of the match, so that says that they appreciated the effort. As with the men's mid-card title match, I was surprised that they had an NXT star go over here, and that probably did help my overall takeaway from the match, as Baszler locked Bayley into her finisher, after taking out Becky with a modified, but really weak, powerbomb onto one of the announce tables, forcing Bayley to tap at the 18 minute mark. As Shayna celebrates standing atop the tables, particularlyt he one Becky is lying on the floor next to, Becky gets up, takes Shayna's legs out from under her, delivers a leg drop from the barricade and puts her through the table. The final score: NXT 4 SmackDown: 2 Raw:1

[B]Overall: 8.0 - Survivor Series was a really fun show due in part to the overall wrestling quality and the fact that Vince wasn't afraid to let NXT shine for the night by ultimately stealing the show in terms of victories and putting on much of the best performances of the night. Given that NXT is now on television in its own right, the smart thing to do here was to not portray the black & gold brand as a bunch of scrubs from WWE's "minor leagues" as it would've undone all the momentum of the build for Survivor Series and would've sent TV viewers the message that yes, NXT is a show filled with inferior wrestlers who don't have what it takes ot be on Raw or SmackDown. NXT ultimately won 4 out of the 7 brand vs. brand vs. brand matches on the show and I'm glad they also didn't just flat out give them a clean sweep; they made NXT look strong last night but there's no need to go overboard and shamelessly pander.

Jeff Deliverer of Mail
11-25-2019, 05:50 AM
What a boring ass main event. Bet they'll think twice about ending a PPV with Becky again.

klunderbunker
12-01-2019, 01:28 AM
Survivor Series 2019
Date: November 24, 2019
Location: Allstate Arena, Chicago, Illinois
Commentators: Michael Cole, Corey Graves, Vic Joseph, Jerry Lawler, Nigel McGuinness, Beth Phoenix

We have finally arrived. After several weeks of Raw, Smackdown and NXT invading each others’ shows, it is time to see which show is best and that could be interesting. Raw has won the competition three years in a row, though this is NXT’s first time being included. The card looks good, albeit huge. Let’s get to it.

Click on the link below for the full review.

They Really Did That (https://kbwrestlingreviews.com/2019/12/01/survivor-series-2019-they-really-did-that/)