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BestSportsEntertainer
11-27-2019, 06:36 PM
Seems like WWE can't get away from the controversy the last few months with Crown Jewel, the Jordan Myles situation, and now this.

During Takeover: War Games, Corey Graves tweeted this:

"Just for the record guys, I know you wouldn't know it, but there's actually a WWE Hall of Famer AND a former Ring of Honor Champion on commentary.

I'd imagine they have a lot to offer."

Since then, Mauro has deleted his Twitter and missed Survivor Series. He will miss tonight's NXT.

Corey apologized on his podcast:

"I sent out a tweet. It was an unpopular opinion, as I often do with the intention of just stirring up a little controversy, maybe have something fun to talk about on TV or here on the show. It was maybe not the most professional way to go about things and it was not meant to offend, disrespect or disparage anybody, that was never my intention. If it was taken as such, I apologize deeply, that was not my intention. I would never intentionally cause anybody any undue stress, especially a co-worker."

Hopefully Mauro is ok and gets well and back to announcing.

Jeff Deliverer of Mail
11-27-2019, 07:10 PM
Cory Graves should know his co worker better than that. Even people who aren't behind the scenes know he was bothered with JBL and has mental issues.

#AbsoluteUnit
11-27-2019, 09:31 PM
Corey Graves ruining it for everyone.

smarkmouth
11-27-2019, 11:03 PM
A lot to unravel here.

First, you can't solely put the blame on Corey here. What followed Corey's criticism was Twitter doing what Twitter does, and that's unleash a wave of anonymous douche bags to pile on.

As for Graves's tweet itself, it's a criticism of Mauro that I sometimes share and I didn't find it crass or abusive. This is obviously not about me, though. Whether it was Corey's remarks that pushed Mauro too far or not can't be addressed unless Mauro himself speaks up.

Have I sounded like a Corey apologist so far? Don't worry.

All that said, Corey Graves demonstrated irresponsible use of social media. Anyone on the wrong side of a snide Corey tweet is going to be attacked by said trolls, and that's something a public figure needs be cognizant of. Before tweeting, Corey should have said to himself, "hey, I have almost 500K followers. Many will echo a disgusting mutation of what I said. Given my colleague's known battles with mental health, Twitter isn't the platform to voice this criticism." A wordy thought, but by no means a leap.

As for the apology, fuck him. "I'm sorry someone felt that way" is not accepting responsibility for your actions, and if you're going to drop a half-assed apology, use the fucking NAME of the person you wronged.

Jack-Hammer
11-28-2019, 07:57 PM
Here's the thing: I'm a fan of Mauro Ranallo. I love the guy's passion, I love his energy, I love the guy's wordplay. Can he be a bit much at times? Sure, I grant that but, for me, I'd rather have someone go over the top than someone who doesn't do enough or doesn't even try to do enough.

As to this thing with Corey Graves, this is a different situation than what happened with JBL. From what I understand, JBL got in Mauro's face, said some genuinely and extremely nasty things, bullied the crap out of him and sent the guy into a near breakdown. This...this was Graves making a mildly snide remark that isn't even in the same universe as the crap JBL pulled. If the comment by Graves is enough to almost mentally cripple Mauro, then I think he really, really, really needs a lot of help dealing with his issues tha he's not getting for one reason or another. If he's not doing some sort of therapy and/or isn't on any medication for his condition, then maybe it's high time he started getting some therapy and/or medication. Honestly, this wasn't that bad and I think is a sign that Mauro needs to make some real changes in how he treats his condition.

Now that's not to say I'm taking up for Graves as Graves is someone that's come down a whole lot in my eyes. He's good at his job, and ultimately that's what matters to me as a fan first and foremost but, in real life, the guy's exposed himself too many times as a brown nosing, two-faced hypocritical douchebag. His "apology" to Mauro was what I view as a Rick Sanchez apology "I'm sorry if you misunderstood what I mean" or "I'm sorry that you thought this is what was going on."

Fallout
11-29-2019, 02:51 PM
Blown entirely out of proportion. I like both Mauro and Graves, and I totally get and empathise with Mauro's mental health struggles, but the people acting as if Graves is an irredeemable asshole are the biggest assholes in this entire situation; if they were in the same position as Graves in being socially shamed online to such an extent, they wouldn't handle it with half the gravitas as he has.

Graves is a heel commentator, and as such, will play that up somewhat on his own feed. It's his character. I'm pretty sure Graves has no animosity towards Mauro, and this is not remotely comparable to the hazing JBL was responsible for.

I also find it ironic that Dave Meltzer is leading this crusade when he insinuated a lot of shit towards Nia Jax earlier this year, and got shut down rightfully for it.

If anything, I think this reaction towards Graves probably made things much worse with regards to Mauro. Twitter is stage 4 cancer, and a blight on any kind of productive conversation nowadays.

OYDK
11-29-2019, 03:11 PM
Yeesh. Just have a conversation. Why are you walking out on your job because of a tweet that wasn't even aggressive? Corey's not in the wrong. He might be a douchebag that loves to shout his opinion on absolutely everything, but that's part of his gimmick. The WWE bubble clearly isn't the most healthy environment for Ranallo so maybe he should just take a leave or something.

A11
11-29-2019, 08:40 PM
Geez if thats enough to call in sick to work I'd never work a day again...

Someone called me squeaky yesterday because my shoes were squeaky, thats 100x worse than Graves' tweet

BestSportsEntertainer
11-29-2019, 09:00 PM
I wouldn't be so quick to judge Mauro. None of us know what he goes through.

mrluck_07
11-30-2019, 01:36 AM
Also, Graves stated his opinion on such a public platform and you know how people like to pile on.

BestSportsEntertainer
11-30-2019, 02:50 AM
Yeesh. Just have a conversation. Why are you walking out on your job because of a tweet that wasn't even aggressive? Corey's not in the wrong. He might be a douchebag that loves to shout his opinion on absolutely everything, but that's part of his gimmick. The WWE bubble clearly isn't the most healthy environment for Ranallo so maybe he should just take a leave or something.

Mental illnesses aren't rational. Something that me or you would brush off could seriously affect someone with mental health problems. Instead of insinuating that Mauro is weak-minded, we should show love and support.

Not saying Mauro or anyone else is above criticism, but that obviously shouldn't be done publicly. It's very unprofessional.

Fallout
11-30-2019, 04:15 AM
For the record, I don't approve either of people saying Mauro was weak or irrational to feel hurt, I just dislike how people are assuming Graves is acting from a position of malice, and if anything, the response to Graves may have done more harm to Mauro than good.

OYDK
11-30-2019, 06:36 AM
Mental illnesses aren't rational. Something that me or you would brush off could seriously affect someone with mental health problems. Instead of insinuating that Mauro is weak-minded, we should show love and support.

Not saying Mauro or anyone else is above criticism, but that obviously shouldn't be done publicly. It's very unprofessional.

You're assuming I don't have mental health issues? I don't want to get into it, but I'll just say there have been periods over the years where I have been damn near rock bottom and struggled to get out of bed in the morning. Doesn't matter. The world won't coddle you. If one of Mauro's triggers is criticism of any kind, than the wrestling business isn't for him. He should get out while he still has his sanity.

Storm Trooper
11-30-2019, 07:07 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VT_5XcJiPoIf you want insight into Mauro Ranello's mental health issues, check this out. It was fucking good.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VT_5XcJiPo

'Ravishing' Ned Flanders
11-30-2019, 09:24 AM
Yeesh. Just have a conversation. Why are you walking out on your job because of a tweet that wasn't even aggressive? Corey's not in the wrong. He might be a douchebag that loves to shout his opinion on absolutely everything, but that's part of his gimmick. The WWE bubble clearly isn't the most healthy environment for Ranallo so maybe he should just take a leave or something.
So he should stop doing what he loves to do because Graves can't think before he hits enter? Big deal or No Corey is 100% in the wrong.

OYDK
11-30-2019, 03:18 PM
So he should stop doing what he loves to do because Graves can't think before he hits enter? Big deal or No Corey is 100% in the wrong.

No he isnâ??t. I know we love to defend the guy who got his feelings hurt, but if youâ??re skipping work because of a tweet that wasnâ??t even that bad, than thatâ??s on you. Like I said, the world isnâ??t going to coddle Mauro Ranallo because heâ??s bipolar, and it shouldnâ??t have to. Thatâ??s just reality. If the environment is too stressful, then yes he should stop doing it. For his own health.

Coreyâ??s not wrong because Mauro canâ??t take criticism.

BestSportsEntertainer
11-30-2019, 04:29 PM
No he isn’t. I know we love to defend the guy who got his feelings hurt, but if you’re skipping work because of a tweet that wasn’t even that bad, than that’s on you. Like I said, the world isn’t going to coddle Mauro Ranallo because he’s bipolar, and it shouldn’t have to. That’s just reality. If the environment is too stressful, then yes he should stop doing it. For his own health.

Corey’s not wrong because Mauro can’t take criticism.

Corey is wrong because he publicly criticized a coworker on social media. Mauro's reaction is irrelevant.

OYDK
11-30-2019, 05:47 PM
Corey is wrong because he publicly criticized a coworker on social media. Mauro's reaction is irrelevant.

I think Graves has the right to give his opinion on his co-worker whether he's supporting or criticizing. But I'll give you your first point. Using social media and inviting the twitter dweebs into the conversation was stupid. But Mauro's reaction is not irrelevant in the slightest. The whole point of this thread is about Mauro and his reason for missing NXT. Ranallo works in one of the most high-pressure environments in the world, and he's going to face criticism from fans, legends, and yeah, co-workers alike. Not everybody is going to like him. What it all comes down to in regards to Mauro is that he missed a show because of a very minor criticism. Earlier, he took a leave because JBL's a dickhead and a bully. Which shows me WWE may not be the right environment for somebody with his issues. I mean, is that not true or?

I'd love it if we lived in a world where everyone was kind and happy and peaceful, but that's not reality. And the reality is that Mauro will have to deal with these types of things constantly in the WWE. And if that triggers him, than he'd be better off getting out.