Monday Night Raw LD (March 12, 2018) ... GONG!

[Dave]

This is it, folks! The Road to RomanMania... Er, WrestleMania, is well and truly upon us now. Fastlane was a really decent PPV where the WWE did the basic things really well but all of that is a thing of the past.

Raw rolls into Detroit tonight as the red WWE brand starts to get it's ducks into a row. We know that Lesnar is going to be on Raw tonight... Or at least, he should be. Reigns has said that he better be ready for a fight, so that's probably what's going to happen.

Meanwhile, we move closer to the Final Deletion, Alexa Bliss versus Nia Jax and absolutely nothing for the Monster Amongst Men to do at WrestleMania. Asuka has challenged Charlotte for the Smackdown Women's Championship, so don't expect her to be showing up any time soon.

But the main new story is that John Cena doesn't have a Road to WrestleMania! Can you believe that?! All of those years of slogging away only to be left off of the New Orleans card? Well, that's a shame. At least he tried. There's always next year...


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[smarkmouth]

If it's the Undertaker, I'm honestly going to laugh at the reported logistics of John Cena's WrestleMania plans.

"Let's do Cena vs Undertaker this year."
"Eh, Undertaker's hurt. We need someone else"
"Okay, what about Rey Mysterio?"
"Eh, Rey's hurt. We need someone else."
"Okay, what about Undertaker?"
"PERFECT!"

[Spidey]

Strowman would have been a fun opponent.

[#AbsoluteUnit]

^ I agree.

[Fallout]

And so the Road to Wrestlemania begins...

[Skairipa]

No Brock still, they really know this might be the only way to get Roman cheered.

[Spidey]

They're really running this no-show = boo him harder thing to the point of making Angle look incompetent as GM. Aight.

[Fire Marshall Bill]

Still not sold on Cena/Taker being the plan. If it doesnâ??t happen tonight, I highly doubt it will.

[klunderbunker]

So let's recap:

WWE wants to make the fans boo Lesnar for never showing up and then show him looking awesome in destroying people like Kane and Miz at house shows. Someone want to try to make sense of that?

[Fallout]

If they can't make Reigns an intentional face through Brock's inactivity, they need to run with the unintentional heel angle. Roman could be a great pivot in building new stars.

[Skairipa]

So let's recap:

WWE wants to make the fans boo Lesnar for never showing up and then show him looking awesome in destroying people like Kane and Miz at house shows. Someone want to try to make sense of that?

Yeah but who really likes those one minute matches?

[Fire Marshall Bill]

And the paycheck.

[BaconBits]

It’s amazing how obvious it is that this whole angle is just to get Roman cheered. He’s still gonna get booed at Mania.

[Fire Marshall Bill]

God forbid you have him throw a few people out of his way to get to him.

[Skairipa]

Didn't think they'd show that area. Also surprised they showed Shane standing there.

[Fallout]

I get what they're going for with Roman Reigns, but it just doesn't work when Roman feels so manufactured. Embrace the manufacturing of Roman, WWE, he could be a absolutely top heel with running with that angle.

[BaconBits]

Oh, so now they’re going with full Stone Cold lite here.

[Bagpipes]

Wow they really are going all in on this Reigns Babyface thing huh?

[Dave]

Legit, that was a very impressive start to Raw. Loved it.

[Spidey]

It's been a while since I was genuinely interested in what will happen after commercial break.

['Ravishing' Ned Flanders]

The most interesting start to RAW I've seen in a long while

[Fallout]

WWE's problem is that it's so safe, so stale right now. If they don't turn either Cena or Reigns heel at Wrestlemania I'm honestly going to roll my eyes. This is the perfect opportunity to make WWE a big deal once more in the mainstream. Instead, they're content on treading water, biding their time.

[jmt225]

Amazing start to the show.

[Fire Marshall Bill]

Angle deserved to get slapped. If he can’t dodge the most telegraphed move in history, it’s on him.

[Fallout]

Did they change the Raw theme again recently?

[klunderbunker]

Yeah but who really likes those one minute matches?

The fans going coconuts in the clips certainly seem to.

[Fire Marshall Bill]

Reigns should keep his mouth shut. And wreck everything in his path.

[Spidey]

Aaand they cheered the suspension.

[Fire Marshall Bill]

Not sure what Paige changed with her makeup since she’s been back, but I don’t like it. I think it’s the lipstick.

[BaconBits]

Brock is totally going to show up later.

[Fire Marshall Bill]

With that look on her face, not sure I’d call it support.

[Fallout]

I'm personally hoping for the fatal 4-way at Wrestlemania for the Raw's Women's title. Alexa, Nia, Bayley and Sasha.

[Fallout]

Another break? Seriously?

[Skairipa]

I'm personally hoping for the fatal 4-way at Wrestlemania for the Raw's Women's title. Alexa, Nia, Bayley and Sasha.

I'm kind of thinking they do that or a 5 way with Sonya Deville added. But I'd rather Bayley vs Sasha one on one non title.

[BestSportsEntertainer]

Just turned on Raw. Anything interesting happen so far?

[Fallout]

I'm kind of thinking they do that or a 5 way with Sonya Deville added. But I'd rather Bayley vs Sasha one on one non title.

If they go for the 5-way, I want to see the Scramble match come back. That was awesome, and a concept not played enough with.

Also, I think Carmella could be considered a factor in the Raw's women division. I could see Alexa moving to Smackdown again after she probably loses the title at Mania to compensate.

[supermatto64]

If only this suspension were legit and Braun took his place...

Uh, I mean boo Brock! Boo!

[BestSportsEntertainer]

If only this suspension were legit and Braun took his place...

Uh, I mean boo Brock! Boo!

I miss 15 minutes of Raw, and Reigns gets suspended. Wow.

[Fire Marshall Bill]

Just turned on Raw. Anything interesting happen so far?

Reigns got suspended from a closed door meeting with VKM.

[Fire Marshall Bill]

Awful backstabber, but I don’t think it was Sasha’s fault at all.

[Skairipa]

It's sad Paige can't even join in on the beatdowns.

[Fallout]

I hope Paige gets another opportunity to wrestle again. Really underrated talent in the grand scheme of the Women's division.

[Fallout]

I actually don't mind the aesthetics that Raw has adopted as of late. The red on white contrasts quite nicely.

[Spidey]

"None had the oomph Kid Rock had."

:fire: :fire: :fire: :fire: :fire: :fire:

[Fire Marshall Bill]

Never understood the appeal of that song.

[klunderbunker]

He's going to perform isn't he?

[supermatto64]

He's going to perform isn't he?

Have fun.

[klunderbunker]

What a motley crew of inductees.

[Spidey]

This year's HOF is deep fried.

[Fire Marshall Bill]

I feel like too many people get inducted each year.

[Fallout]

He's going to perform isn't he?

We need JR's hyperbole to match Kid Rock's music if he dares perform. That's the only way it can be salvaged.

[Fire Marshall Bill]

He's going to perform isn't he?

American badass Taker with the live music entrance :lmao:

[Fallout]

What's with the triple threats being set up for WM34?

[BestSportsEntertainer]

What's with the triple threats being set up for WM34?

Usually I prefer one on one matches, but I wouldn't mind Strowman being added to Reigns vs Lesnar.

[Fallout]

Usually I prefer one on one matches, but I wouldn't mind Strowman being added to Reigns vs Lesnar.

I was referring more to the IC title match, the US title match, and the Smackdown tag title match. But I think that one is the less egregious.

[BaconBits]

Usually I prefer one on one matches, but I wouldn't mind Strowman being added to Reigns vs Lesnar.

That would just mean Braun eats the pin.

[BestSportsEntertainer]

I was referring more to the IC title match, the US title match, and the Smackdown tag title match. But I think that one is the less egregious.

Yeah, those are just lazy booking.

[supermatto64]

Please, Seth, ditch the custom tights I made in WCW Mayhem.

[Spidey]

Seth is really trying with these tights.


EDIT: I think him and Balor have a bet goin'

[SD619]

Looks like Balor stole Bluetista's clothes...

[Fallout]

I really appreciate how Miz has elevated the IC title. Competing with the #3 and #4 of the active Raw roster at Mania is worth praise on its own.

[Spidey]

Looks like Balor stole Bluetista's clothes...


Him and Seth have been wearing the same thing each week since Royal Rumble.

[SD619]

Love Miz as the shit-talking back peddling heel

[BestSportsEntertainer]

*Miz trying to turn Rollins and Balor against each other*

Rollins and Balor - lol no

[Fire Marshall Bill]

So the Gallows and Anderson thing is done...?

[Fire Marshall Bill]

Rollins be like, “My pants are straight fire, bro!”

[Fallout]

Good promo. Hope these three have more in the tank for the promo train.

[Fallout]

Over/under on the Taker gong? I'll set 15, including commercials.

[Jeff Deliverer of Mail]

Can't wait for Cena to get interuppted on the mic by Gene Snitski's "It wasn't my fault " entrance theme. Snitski vs Cena at Mania. Calling it now.

[Skairipa]

Oh good were wasting time on Miztourage trying to earn a title shot.

[Fallout]

I love Balor's troll face smile, especially in the promo package.

[Skairipa]

Revival still has hope for a title match at Mania?!

[Fallout]

Who is the best tag-team in WWE right now, and why is it The Bar?

[Skairipa]

Here's your Mania ladder match.

[SD619]

Oh good were wasting time on Miztourage trying to earn a title shot.

They deserve a chance to point at the WM sign as well...

EDIT: Oh...multi-man clusterfuck

[Spidey]

Know what would be wild but an interesting set up for Cena? Have him square off against a few of his greatest rivals. Toss Kurt in there. Maybe rehire Wade Barrett for a match. Get JBL. Edge can be the referee. Beats Taker going out like a chump.

[Fallout]

I think they'll debut Authors of Pain on the Raw after Mania to take the titles off The Bar. I don't think The Bar will drop it to anyone at Mania, and I could honestly see them moving to Smackdown a week later.

[klunderbunker]

Please, not a ladder match. Make it a gauntlet match or something but ANYTHING but another cluster of a ladder match, especially with twelve people.

[BaconBits]

Good lord the tag division is straight doo doo.

[supermatto64]

Can't wait for our second consecutive Raw tag title ladder match at Mania.

[Yaz]

Boy I can't wait for Wrestlemania 34 multiman matches.

[Fallout]

Know what would be wild but an interesting set up for Cena? Have him square off against a few of his greatest rivals. Toss Kurt in there. Maybe rehire Wade Barrett for a match. Get JBL. Edge can be the referee. Beats Taker going out like a chump.

Retiring Taker at Mania for a badass heel turn. It's not all doom and gloom, Spidey.

[klunderbunker]

Which losers get a title shot at a team that has already beaten them? Tune in to Wrestlemania and find out!

[Jeff Deliverer of Mail]

All this Bar set up for a pre show 10 team mess.

[Fire Marshall Bill]

Retiring Taker at Mania for a badass heel turn. It's not all doom and gloom, Spidey.

You mean what they should’ve done with Reigns last year?

[Skairipa]

I'd much rather a tag title ladder match than one for the IC or US Title.

[Fallout]

You mean what they should’ve done with Reigns last year?

Reigns is an unknown quantity. Cena is not. And if they're so hardline on making Reigns the face of the company, they might as well throw the kitchen sink at it.

[SD619]

If everyone is in a ladder match, does it mean no ARMBAR?

[Jeff Deliverer of Mail]

Come on Snitski!

[Spidey]

"Excuse me, I'm here for the Pity Party."

[SD619]

"No Match" John is here...

[klunderbunker]

Please......surprise me WWE.

[Jeff Deliverer of Mail]

He's going to The Hardy Compound as a ref.

[supermatto64]

Dead man walkin'.

[Fallout]

I personally can't wait for the hitchhiker's road to Wrestlemania for next year.

[Spidey]

Guest Host my dude

[Fire Marshall Bill]

Cena in the crowd would actually be fun if he’s legit not going to have a match.

[Jeff Deliverer of Mail]

So he's going to interfere in every match.

[klunderbunker]

Cena just roaming through the crowd at Wrestlemania would be hilarious.

[BaconBits]

So he's going to interfere in every match.

You know, I’d be okay with that.

[Spidey]

I'm dying.

Trying their damndest to get Roman over as a face.

Cena takes the piss out of it an hour later.

[Fire Marshall Bill]

You kidding? He should start that chant during every match to bury everyone.

[BaconBits]

Cena just roaming through the crowd at Wrestlemania would be hilarious.

He’d be fantastic as a guest host doing that. Just flash to him in between matches chilling with various fans and backstage guys and such.

[klunderbunker]

Well of course.

[Fire Marshall Bill]

Funny how as much shit as he’s gotten, he can still get everyone behind him quite easily.

[Fire Marshall Bill]

Well he’s not going to call him out like this and not have a payoff.

[klunderbunker]

Undertaker needs to come out next week and say "I'm too old for this s***" and leave.

[BaconBits]

I'm dying.

Trying their damndest to get Roman over as a face.

Cena takes the piss out of it an hour later.

Cena/Taker probably closes the show anyways.

[Spidey]

Cena is taunting a senior citizen that could barely work last year.

[Skairipa]

My dogs won't shut up so I'm missing this whole segment nasically.

[Fallout]

You know what? Fuck the scepticism. I think this could be a classic in story-telling if done correctly.

[TheManTheyCalledNorCal]

God fucking damn It. I thought we were safe

[Yaz]

You know, I could almost get behind this is 1) Cena wasn't playing a quasi heel but we all know is a face 2) Undertaker is literally 55 years old and hasn't had a good match in ages and 3) I kind of wanted Cena to have a stop watch and a notepad and do a live review of the show from the stands.

[klunderbunker]

This is really what we're doing? Undertaker is a coward and has a big ego? Like......THIS IS THE BEST THING THEY HAVE? ANd what was the point in the last, oh, several weeks of "well, I can't fight Undertaker so I need to try everything else"? Oh yeah, Fastlane had to happen.

[Jeff Deliverer of Mail]

Wrestlemania Undertaker would need about 74 AA's to put away.

[Fire Marshall Bill]

OH MY GOD HE JUST SHOT ON THE UNDERTAKER. IT’VE BEEN GREAT IF HE CALLED HIM MARK. REAL THINGS REAL THINGS REAL THINGS

[klunderbunker]

You know, I could almost get behind this is 1) Cena wasn't playing a quasi heel but we all know is a face 2) Undertaker is literally 55 years old and hasn't had a good match in ages and 3) I kind of wanted Cena to have a stop watch and a notepad and do a live review of the show from the stands.

Man I've got enough competition. I can't handle an animated bull.

[Jeff Deliverer of Mail]

They'd have to start the AA's right away, do the roll through and AA's for about 25 minutes.

[Fallout]

I don't know about you guys, but I'm pumped for this. Cena can deliver on the promo game, he can carry talent way worse than a Undertaker in his 50's, and this has so much potential to really remake Cena as a talent.

I'm really excited for this.

[Jeff Deliverer of Mail]

I literally tuned in tonight in hope to hear a gong. Fairly deflated now.

[SD619]

I'm so annoyed with these fucking "shoots" every week...Is this the best they can come up with Cena-Taker? Just having them showing up in the ring together would be better that this "shoot"

[Fire Marshall Bill]

This is really what we're doing? Undertaker is a coward and has a big ego? Like......THIS IS THE BEST THING THEY HAVE? ANd what was the point in the last, oh, several weeks of "well, I can't fight Undertaker so I need to try everything else"? Oh yeah, Fastlane had to happen.

Hopefully it’s not a sign of how questionable he really is health-wise.

[DNA 2.0]

Lol. How is Undertaker the egoistic here? Cena and the fans are

[Fallout]

I'm so annoyed with these fucking "shoots" every week...Is this the best they can come up with Cena-Taker? Just having them showing up in the ring together would be better that this "shoot"

So you'd rather a generic promo that says almost nothing of substance? At least a worked shoot can convey more emotion, and add to the build-up to the event.

[Fallout]

Come on Sheamus and Cesaro, don't clue people in too much you're moving to Smackdown.

[klunderbunker]

You can tell a show is going fairly well when they can have one match in an hour and fifteen minutes and it's not that much of a problem.

[Dave]

You guys are hilarious. You're getting the match, Taker is showing up. Who cares what the story is, the match will sell itself.

[Jeff Deliverer of Mail]

So I guess they can tease this every week to get fans to watch. Lightning strike here, gong tease there.

[Skairipa]

Tag team battle royal, here's hoping for Revival. Could also handle a surprise addition of War Machine or Authors of Pain to it though.

[klunderbunker]

You guys are hilarious. You're getting the match, Taker is showing up. Who cares what the story is, the match will sell itself.

But what if I just don't want to see the match?

[supermatto64]

Unless a tag team from NXT shows up in that battle royal I couldn't care less.

[Fire Marshall Bill]

Poor Elias.

[Spidey]

John Cena, the face of the company, couldn't find an opponent for Wrestlemania even with the dozens in the back not having opponents either.

Undertaker has an ego because he's old and broken down.

Sometimes you just have to feel stupid watching this shit.

[BaconBits]

I'm so annoyed with these fucking "shoots" every week...Is this the best they can come up with Cena-Taker? Just having them showing up in the ring together would be better that this "shoot"

Itâ??s the new kayfabe. Get used to it.

[Fire Marshall Bill]

Seriously just forget Strowman exists. Save yourself.

[BaconBits]

Unless a tag team from NXT shows up in that battle royal I couldn't care less.

AOP please.

[supermatto64]

AOP please.

That's my first thought, but I wanna see them against Harper and Rowan at some point too.

[SD619]

So you'd rather a generic promo that says almost nothing of substance? At least a worked shoot can convey more emotion, and add to the build-up to the event.

Its not so much the promo. With Roman and Heyman's promos, I'm just tired of these "shoot" interviews. Also, why would "face" Cena call the Undertaker a washed old man? I get that the match will be a spectacle and the build will be great, but I'm not a fan of this premise for this dream match...

['Ravishing' Ned Flanders]

I'm not the only only who doesn't want to see 'Taker this year am I?

[Fallout]

That's my first thought, but I wanna see them against Harper and Rowan at some point too.

The Bar will probably move to Smackdown in place of perhaps New Day.

And I want AoP the night after Mania honestly. A better pop is guaranteed honestly.

[smarkmouth]

I'm not the only only who doesn't want to see 'Taker this year am I?
I'm hyped by the spectacle, but I'm not expecting it'll scratch Taker's top 10 Mania matches.

[BaconBits]

I'm not the only only who doesn't want to see 'Taker this year am I?

Depends, if he’s Taker, no. If he’s the ABA or Big Evil, then yes, I do want to see him.

[Jeff Deliverer of Mail]

Taker can do his entrance at Mania then get on the mic and say "Did I leave my fucking hat, coat and boots here last year?"

Crowd laughs, match over. He gives Cena the finger to end the show.

[Spidey]

I'm convinced Vince would carry Taker's corpse to the ring for a match if he could get away with it.

[Fallout]

Its not so much the promo. With Roman and Heyman's promos, I'm just tired of these "shoot" interviews. Also, why would "face" Cena call the Undertaker a washed old man? I get that the match will be a spectacle and the build will be great, but I'm not a fan of this premise for this dream match...

Cena is the greatest of his generation.

Undertaker is a constant through the modern generations, whether that be Hogan's era, Austin's era, or Cena's era.

And I think this is setting up a new edge to Cena at the very least. I think they're setting up Cena vs Reigns II at Summerslam with Lesnar's future in doubt. Regardless, I don't see Lesnar being a title holder in the future in all honesty.

[DNA 2.0]

So, Ronda gets to close the show tonight.. what else can they possibly do with that match? Doesn't really need any more built up

[supermatto64]

The Bar will probably move to Smackdown in place of perhaps New Day.

And I want AoP the night after Mania honestly. A better pop is guaranteed honestly.

I can see that. Regardless, I just want a fresh team for The Bar to take on.

[Fallout]

I'm hyped by the spectacle, but I'm not expecting it'll scratch Taker's top 10 Mania matches.

Well yeah, when you're 52 years old, and you've spent most of those years wrestling, I can't expect a technical classic from Taker. But I have enough faith in Cena to support a Taker that is at least trying to put over talent in the ring, which I don't think Taker would slack on.

[Jeff Deliverer of Mail]

So, Ronda gets to close the show tonight.. what else can they possibly do with that match? Doesn't really need any more built up

It's Rowdy Ronda Rowsey. If she's on my screen I'm happy.

[Fallout]

I have to say, the Raw commentary team sounds so much better now. Coach is really the third-wheel that Corey and Cole need to get the best out of both men.

[DNA 2.0]

The whole Cena vs Undertaker doesn't make sense. So Cena calls Undertaker selfish and egotistical because he retired??? Wtf. Just because Cena doesn't have a match and wants to face someone he's using the fans and he's calling Taker names.

Undertaker should literally come out next week and destroy Cena on the mic.

[Fire Marshall Bill]

Its not so much the promo. With Roman and Heyman's promos, I'm just tired of these "shoot" interviews. Also, why would "face" Cena call the Undertaker a washed old man? I get that the match will be a spectacle and the build will be great, but I'm not a fan of this premise for this dream match...

Cena has graduated to such a veteran that he can be who he wants to be without forcing a strict face or heel dynamic. Plus, if heâ??s going to get Taker, he has to bait him.

[shafe_41]

Tuned in late... I personally loved the Cena promo and him "stirring up shit" to make it happen. I liked the personal dig because it gets a little emotion into it rather than the typical "we've only had one match. I respect you. I want a match to see who the better man is." It gives Taker a reason to show up other than "yes, let's have the match." I'm just happy we're getting it.

[Fallout]

Tuned in late... I personally loved the Cena promo and him "stirring up shit" to make it happen. I liked the personal dig because it gets a little emotion into it rather than the typical "we've only had one match. I respect you. I want a match to see who the better man is." It gives Taker a reason to show up other than "yes, let's have the match." I'm just happy we're getting it.

Exactly. I think it shows Cena's desperation also. In storyline, he's messed up chance after chance to get a road to Wrestlemania, and he needs to scavenge whatever he can. This is a perfect set-up on Cena's behalf.

As a massive fan of Taker, I understand that people are trying to look from his perspective also, but I think Taker would be happy to make another talent look good and for it to also matter in his swan song in the WWE. Say what you will about last Mania, but I don't think WWE achieved the desired effect last year.

[shafe_41]

I'm hyped by the spectacle, but I'm not expecting it'll scratch Taker's top 10 Mania matches.

It'll definitely be in Taker's Top 10 Mania matches without a doubt. It won't be better than the HBK ones. Maybe not even the Triple H ones. But certainly better than his first 6 or 7. Better than Wyatt. Better than Roman. Better than the 2-on-1 match he had. Better than the Mark Henry casket match. Right there you're basically already in the top 10.

[Spidey]

My buddy who doesn't keep up with WWE asked me who the CAWs on the channel were.

[BaconBits]

The whole Cena vs Undertaker doesn't make sense. So Cena calls Undertaker selfish and egotistical because he retired??? Wtf. Just because Cena doesn't have a match and wants to face someone he's using the fans and he's calling Taker names.

Undertaker should literally come out next week and destroy Cena on the mic.

Nobody short of the Rock destroys Cena on the mic, and you think Taker’s gonna do it? Do you even watch wrestling?

[BaconBits]

My buddy who doesn't keep up with WWE asked me who the CAWs on the channel were.

I mean, he’s not wrong.

[Fallout]

My buddy who doesn't keep up with WWE asked me who the CAWs on the channel were.

Tell him that they use Hardcore Holly's entrance theme. I should hope he gets the reference.

[SD619]

Any chance of the Demon entrance at WM?

[supermatto64]

Tell him that they use Hardcore Holly's entrance theme. I should hope he gets the reference.

Only the best theme on Shut Your Mouth for a wrestler not named Reverend Devon.

[shafe_41]

Exactly. I think it shows Cena's desperation also. In storyline, he's messed up chance after chance to get a road to Wrestlemania, and he needs to scavenge whatever he can. This is a perfect set-up on Cena's behalf.

As a massive fan of Taker, I understand that people are trying to look from his perspective also, but I think Taker would be happy to make another talent look good and for it to also matter in his swan song in the WWE. Say what you will about last Mania, but I don't think WWE achieved the desired effect last year.

Oh hell not even a chance. Taker wouldn't need to make Cena look good though. I'd put my money on Taker winning that match and going out on top. Since he already lost the streak, going out by doing the job doesn't mean what it could have WITH the streak. Especially to another guy that's going to be part time. People want to see Taker go out on top. And honestly, Cena would want him to go out on top. They'd likely argue about who is going to take the fall insisting the other guy goes over. Even in a match that doesn't "mean" anything, it's a huge match and the win would mean more to Taker than Cena.

[BaconBits]

Any chance of the Demon facepaint at WM?

I’d put it at like a 90% chance. Maybe he’ll do a legit character like he did pre-WWE.

[Fallout]

Any chance of the Demon entrance at WM?

I could honestly see it. Even if Balor doesn't win (though I hope he does), it's a perfect set-up for his first WM.

[shafe_41]

The whole Cena vs Undertaker doesn't make sense. So Cena calls Undertaker selfish and egotistical because he retired??? Wtf. Just because Cena doesn't have a match and wants to face someone he's using the fans and he's calling Taker names.

Undertaker should literally come out next week and destroy Cena on the mic.

Taker has never destroyed anybody on the mic. Literally ever. Did you just start watching WWE last year?

[SD619]

Oh hell not even a chance. Taker wouldn't need to make Cena look good though. I'd put my money on Taker winning that match and going out on top. Since he already lost the streak, going out by doing the job doesn't mean what it could have WITH the streak. Especially to another guy that's going to be part time. People want to see Taker go out on top. And honestly, Cena would want him to go out on top. They'd likely argue about who is going to take the fall insisting the other guy goes over. Even in a match that doesn't "mean" anything, it's a huge match and the win would mean more to Taker than Cena.

Didn't even consider Taker wining the match. Cena losing and going on a well-booked redemption story for the 17th title could be great

[Spidey]

Women's equality? Didn't she pimp out other women wrestlers???

[BaconBits]

Women's equality? Didn't she pimp out other women wrestlers???

Yes, she did. But the majority of wrasslin’ fans don’t know that.

[shafe_41]

A Moolah Battle Royal now?

[klunderbunker]

.....so are we still having a men's battle royal?

[Fallout]

Oh hell not even a chance. Taker wouldn't need to make Cena look good though. I'd put my money on Taker winning that match and going out on top. Since he already lost the streak, going out by doing the job doesn't mean what it could have WITH the streak. Especially to another guy that's going to be part time. People want to see Taker go out on top. And honestly, Cena would want him to go out on top. They'd likely argue about who is going to take the fall insisting the other guy goes over. Even in a match that doesn't "mean" anything, it's a huge match and the win would mean more to Taker than Cena.

There's a possibility Taker could win, and I think that's what makes the match interesting enough. But I think the best possible scenario is an avenue that Cena could turn on Taker, and they could really push an angle that Cena is making one last push for the big-time in the WWE, before going on to do more movie-related work. We've not seen a Cena desperate to win by any means necessary since 2003, and that might be enough to really shake up the product, at least until Summerslam. I know it's WWE, and they mess things up pretty regularly, but I have enough faith in them that they can maintain Cena's image for a while.

[supermatto64]

Oh good, something for the other women to do. I love clusterfucks.

[Skairipa]

Meh I can get behind a women's battle royal. Still would like Sasha and Bayley getting a singles match against each other though.

[Wildcat66]

A Moolah Battle Royal?

Count me in.

[Fallout]

"Let's patronise women by making them do the exact same thing as men for no reason except the political zeitgeist."

Look, I know it's well-intentioned, but I can't help but feel it's manufactured as all sin. NXT know exactly how to build women wrestlers, and how to make history with their women without making it seem contrived. That Bayley vs Banks Iron Lady match was phenomenal.

[shafe_41]

Didn't even consider Taker wining the match. Cena losing and going on a well-booked redemption story for the 17th title could be great

Yeah that's just my two cents anyway. I personally see Taker winning. Just makes more sense at this point in time to see him go out on top than it would have say... 3-4 years ago.
I enjoy the Cena redemption story thing too. Give him a Universal Title win over Braun or Roman or something and let him run a good 5-6 months with it as a good send off into definite part-time land... even though he's sort of there already.

[Fallout]

So I guess we forget that Asuka won the women's Royal Rumble?

[Spidey]

So I guess we forget that Asuka won the women's Royal Rumble?

Fastlane had her come out and challenge Charlotte.

[Fallout]

Fastlane had her come out and challenge Charlotte.

Of course, but it seems like they're making the female focus of Raw be on Ronda vs Stephanie. The Raw's women's match seems like an afterthought, even if Asuka is Smackdown-bound.

[klunderbunker]

Of course, but it seems like they're making the female focus of Raw be on Ronda vs Stephanie. The Raw's women's match seems like an afterthought, even if Asuka is Smackdown-bound.

That's because it is an afterthought, especially given the names in the other women's matches.

[BestSportsEntertainer]

That's because it is an afterthought, especially given the names in the other women's matches.

Yeah I'm a huge Alexa fan, but Ronda and Asuka are far ahead of her.

[Spidey]

I thought they were putting in a great deal of work between Bliss/Jax past few weeks.

[Fallout]

You know, the underrated aspect of this match could be Angle vs HHH. Both men can still go, and both men have never fought each other at WM.

And of course, Rousey.

[BaconBits]

Please do not have Asuka talk. It’s so awkward.

[Fire Marshall Bill]

I do hope they pull the trigger on Jax’s face turn. It’s been brewing forever.

[Fallout]

That's because it is an afterthought, especially given the names in the other women's matches.

I think Asuka and Charlotte will steal the show. It could be an instant classic, possibly the best main roster women's match ever.

The Raw match, if it's to probably be multi-woman, will probably need a cash-in to make it memorable, or at least, a title change. Sasha vs Bayley also has the ideal set-up in that match.

[Fallout]

The graphics in Asuka's titantron look like an early Sega CD game.

[SD619]

I think Asuka and Charlotte will steal the show. It could be an instant classic, possibly the best main roster women's match ever.

The Raw match, if it's to probably be multi-woman, will probably need a cash-in to make it memorable, or at least, a title change. Sasha vs Bayley also has the ideal set-up in that match.

I think Sasha wins the FMMBAR (patent pending) last eliminating Bayley.

[Fallout]

I like the new sismance angle they're going for with Alexa and Mickie.

[Skairipa]

I was wondering if I'd get my weekly fix of Bliss tonight

[klunderbunker]

Mickie has aged amazingly well.

[Spidey]

I like the new sismance angle they're going for with Alexa and Mickie.

Mickie does have a thing for blondes heh

[BestSportsEntertainer]

I was wondering if I'd get my weekly fix of Bliss tonight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p7aStAKfd4

[BestSportsEntertainer]

Please stop Asuka

[shafe_41]

I'm sorry but can we not have Asuka on the mic anymore. Please? PLEASE???

[klunderbunker]

I think Asuka and Charlotte will steal the show. It could be an instant classic, possibly the best main roster women's match ever.

The Raw match, if it's to probably be multi-woman, will probably need a cash-in to make it memorable, or at least, a title change. Sasha vs Bayley also has the ideal set-up in that match.
It's going to be Bliss vs. Nia. That's fairly obvious at this point.

[Spidey]

Am I back in the 80s???

[Jeff Deliverer of Mail]

Not.....

[klunderbunker]

Mickie does have a thing for blondes heh

Good taste if nothing else.

['Ravishing' Ned Flanders]

Please stop Asuka


I'm sorry but can we not have Asuka on the mic anymore. Please? PLEASE???
Oh come on. She's not that bad considering the fact she isn't a native speaker

[Fire Marshall Bill]

Mickie has aged amazingly well.

One of my favorites.

[Fallout]

It's going to be Bliss vs. Nia. That's fairly obvious at this point.

With the women's battle royale, I think that's most likely now. Before that, I was thinking a scramble match to make things a little more memorable.


Oh come on. She's not that bad considering the fact she isn't a native speaker

She's better than Shinsuke in all honesty.

[Jeff Deliverer of Mail]

A figure 8, 8 leglock?

[BestSportsEntertainer]

She's better than Shinsuke in all honesty.

I think Nakamura is a lot better, but that's just me.

[Fallout]

I think Nakamura is a lot better, but that's just me.

I don't mind Nakamura as a strong in-ring talent, but I just can't get behind him as an A-level star. I just think his charisma is just too contrived, too forced, I think he's overrated in that regard most certainly.

[klunderbunker]

Not bad at all here.

[Spidey]

They both speak decent English.

[Skairipa]

Why do the fans keep doing dumb chants? That was a good match.

[supermatto64]

CM Punk chants are so cute lol

[Fire Marshall Bill]

Screams pretty loud for being in a choke hold.

[Fallout]

You know, just once, I want for that second pin after the first to get the three count.

[TheManTheyCalledNorCal]

Holy shit that sunset bomb!

It's all in the sell, gents

[supermatto64]

A figure 8, 8 leglock?

Charlotte is an octopus, didn't ya know?

[Jeff Deliverer of Mail]

Battle Royal to see who is on the pre show at Mania.

[Fallout]

Please, please be good Ultimate Deletion.

[Fire Marshall Bill]

So about 2 more weeks until that match is official.

[Jeff Deliverer of Mail]

She also had a good Ghandi Plex.

['Ravishing' Ned Flanders]

I think Nakamura is a lot better, but that's just me.
The fuq is wrong with your ears?

[Spidey]

The chemistry Bliss and Jax have with this subtle heel/face work is incredible. Kinda makes me want them to wait til after Wrestlemania to see it come to fruition. Not gonna happen, it will get rushed, but for now it's such a nice burn.

[SD619]

Indira Gandhi video on WWE...Never thought I'd see this day.

[BestSportsEntertainer]

The fuq is wrong with your ears?

Asuka just yells too much for my liking. It's really no big deal. She's still my favorite woman in WWE, behind Becky.

[Fallout]

To be honest, crazy Asuka on Twitter is the best Asuka.

[Skairipa]

Does Nia win anything except squash matches?

[supermatto64]

That girl's face lmao

[Fallout]

S.Q.U.A.S.H.

['Ravishing' Ned Flanders]

Does Nia win anything except squash matches?
Not really?

[Spidey]

The chemistry Bliss and Jax have with this subtle heel/face work is incredible. Kinda makes me want them to wait til after Wrestlemania to see it come to fruition. Not gonna happen, it will get rushed, but for now it's such a nice burn.

Why you gotta get your hopes up, eh?

[Fallout]

https://whatistheexcel.com/wooobooru/_images/f0045649367a098823ac2d2a91928f3d/1492%20-%20gtv%20logo%20wwf.png

['Ravishing' Ned Flanders]

So they don't see the camera in their faces?

[klunderbunker]

So.....the women are just ok with a camera filming them in their locker room?

[Skairipa]

Didn't think they'd fully set up Bliss vs Nia tonight but I'm glad they did. Bliss is gonna die at Mania.

[Fire Marshall Bill]

What a coincidence that this conversation is being recorded. And I don’t like them using her size as a target. Though it does help build the in ring story for the match.

[Wildcat66]

G.T.V back from the dead and here to show Nia the light.

Thank you Goldust for this wonderful gift.

[Spidey]

YES! FACE JAX IS BAE JAX

[Skairipa]

Wait...Nia is crying? Get angry not sad!

[Fallout]

I for one welcome a Chyna-esque squash match at Mania.

['Ravishing' Ned Flanders]

Bwahahahahaha!!

[BaconBits]

Didn't think they'd fully set up Bliss vs Nia tonight but I'm glad they did. Bliss is gonna die at Mania.

It’ll be hilarious if Alexa’s reign of terror continues.

[Fire Marshall Bill]

Tantrum wasn’t the way I’d have gone, but whatever.

[Spidey]

Wait...Nia is crying? Get angry not sad!

That was her bud and she was emotionally manipulated. Thought that was a great touch.

['Ravishing' Ned Flanders]

Wait...Nia is crying? Get angry not sad!
There ya go

[Wildcat66]

If there is anything we can take from tonight, it's that the women on RAW have the better storylines than the ones on SD.

Also, Nia Jax was awesome in that segment. Player of the day by a landslide.

[klunderbunker]

Good stuff. It's an angle you can relate to and I want to see NIa squash her in ten seconds.

[Skairipa]

Face Nia should be pretty good if everything doesn't revolve around people picking on her for her size.

[shafe_41]

What happened to being a Star? We're ripping on her size and calling her dumb?

Hey... it at least gives Nia some character and personality. Go with it.

[klunderbunker]

What happened to being a Star? We're ripping on her size and calling her dumb?

Hey... it at least gives Nia some character and personality. Go with it.

Stephanie has moved on.

[Spidey]

What happened to being a Star? We're ripping on her size and calling her dumb?

Hey... it at least gives Nia some character and personality. Go with it.


When was the last time you saw one of those commercials?

[Wildcat66]

Behold. The gang is all here.

The Woken Transformation is now complete.

[Fallout]

I can't help but smile at these TNA references making it to WWE.

[Spidey]

To give Wyatt and Hardy credit, their stuff is extremely different from what everybody else is doing.