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Jack-Hammer
03-13-2018, 08:21 AM
The next phase of the "Women's Evolution" will come about at WrestleMania where pretty much all the women of the roster, both main and NXT, will compete in a battle royal named in honor of the Fabulous Moolah.

The men get a battle royal at WrestleMania every year and now the women will as well. Makes sense. As with the Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal, this one for the ladies is ultimately just a means to allowing all the women to share in the biggest payday of the year. It's a throwaway match more than anything, just as with the men, but it means more money in the pockets of the gals so that makes it worth it to them.

I will say that it's pretty wide open as to who winds up winning, so that adds an element of freshness to it.

Y 2 Jake
03-13-2018, 09:35 AM
Hopefully it replaces the Andre battle royal. As much as I enjoy them I don't need two on the same show.

I hope it has some stakes. Or at the very least the winner has to carry around a Moolah sized statue all year.

Барбоса
03-13-2018, 10:20 AM
I hope it has some stakes.

This has always been a problem with the ATGBR. Why it could not have been used in some way to elevate someone to some kind of stature is beyond me. Instead, it is just become solely a way to get people on the show - that in itself is not an issue, but either the Moolah or Andre BR can be both that and something more, even if it is something like giving them a shot at a title without any hope of winning.

Say, Becky Lynch wins the Moolah BR and gets a shot at Asuka. Sure, she is likely to get one anyway, but this way it would add some stakes.

Lee
03-13-2018, 10:34 AM
Hopefully it replaces the Andre battle royal. As much as I enjoy them I don't need two on the same show.

I hope it has some stakes. Or at the very least the winner has to carry around a Moolah sized statue all year.

Moolah wouldn't have it any other way.

DNA 2.0
03-13-2018, 10:37 AM
Get ready for Sasha and Bayley to be the carrying feud of this battle royal. I bet that neither Sasha or Bayley will turn on each other before this battle royal, but instead, one of the two will eliminate the other, which will be the final straw. The official heel turn of either Sasha or Bayley, will come at the RAW after Wrestlemania.

Also, my possible winners for this are: Lynch, Carmella, Beth Phoenix or Trish Stratus. The first two would make sense for storyline reasons and also because they are two hot names on the division right now. The other two could win just for their name value and in order to advertise the battle royal. I just hope a Bella doesn't win.

As far stakes go, this is WWE. There will be no stakes. Just a prize that has "sentimental and historical value".

DNA 2.0
03-13-2018, 10:39 AM
I just hope that both battle royals end up on the pre-show, so we could get the wrestling action on the main show.

ShinChan
03-13-2018, 10:46 AM
I just hope that both battle royals end up on the pre-show, so we could get the wrestling action on the main show.
With Andre's documentary coming up soon, I don't think that it'll take place on the pre-show. And this women's one is the first, so I feel the same for it as well.

CyberPunk
03-13-2018, 10:58 AM
Wasn't Fabulous Moolah accused of "pimping" girls out to promoters in various territories?

This can't be good PR.

BestSportsEntertainer
03-13-2018, 01:12 PM
Uhhh sure. It gets everyone on the card, so as long as it's on the pre-show, I'm fine with this.

They should make it mean something. Maybe give the winner a title shot sometime later on.

DNA 2.0
03-13-2018, 07:32 PM
Why should the life of a wrestler outside the ring affect their in ring legacy? I never got this. Bussiness is bussiness and personal life is personal life.

'Ravishing' Ned Flanders
03-13-2018, 07:56 PM
Why should the life of a wrestler outside the ring affect their in ring legacy? I never got this. Bussiness is bussiness and personal life is personal life.
Because when you do something disgusting it affects every aspect of your life. It's why no one really mentions Hulk Hogan and Chris Benoit was never born

Dave
03-13-2018, 08:01 PM
Why should the life of a wrestler outside the ring affect their in ring legacy? I never got this. Bussiness is bussiness and personal life is personal life.

Ask Chris Benoit that question... Oh wait!

As far as the match goes, it's predictable but should be worth watching. That's about all I can really say.

Jack-Hammer
03-13-2018, 09:26 PM
There appears to be a backlash online concerning. There's a petition going around to get WWE to change the name of it and another one to cancel the match altogether.

As has been mentioned, there've been stories circulating for decades that Moolah essentially pimped out female wrestlers both during and after the territory days. It's not just one or two people who've made such accusations as people like Luna Vachon, Wendi Richter, Leilani Kai and others have told similar stories over the years in various shoot interviews.

As far as I know, Moolah denied a lot of these claims in life so it's ultimately just she said-she said at this point.

Like just about every top star in the business, Moolah screwed over a lot of people as a means of getting a head and/or keeping her spot. As a result, she had no shortage of enemies and that's usually how the story goes when you're a top star.

I dunno if any of it's true or not, probably some of it is, some isn't, some of it's also probably exaggerated. Stories like this seem to just about always come out whenever WWE does something like this, or honors someone that has a checkered past. The whole thing with the Ultimate Warrior, for instance, is a good example as Warrior is someone that's been celebrated over the past several years since his death despite the fact that he's made statements in the past, statements he stood by, that were blatantly homophobic and/or racist.

This'll probably die down in a day or two.

ShinChan
03-14-2018, 12:24 AM
Why should the life of a wrestler outside the ring affect their in ring legacy? I never got this. Bussiness is bussiness and personal life is personal life.
The thing is that WWE is treating Moolah like some great inspiration. So, if she's one, then the allegations negate that fact. That's assuming that the allegations have some truth in them.

You can't make someone look inspirational when so many allegations lie in his/her real life.

Барбоса
03-14-2018, 09:30 AM
As far as I know, Moolah denied a lot of these claims in life so it's ultimately just she said-she said at this point.

Except it is not. it is "she said - they know" and the "they" is pretty numerous.

It was basically an open secret that WWE is trying to ignore, but such wilful ignorance is dangerous at this time of year when WWE makes its annual attempt to briefly join the mainstream with Wrestlemania. Not to mention the current climate surrounding female inequality.

#AbsoluteUnit
03-14-2018, 05:34 PM
Didn't Moolah screw over Wendi Richter in 1985?

#AbsoluteUnit
03-14-2018, 05:55 PM
Ah, I'm right. From KB's site:


Womenâ??s Title: Wendi Richter vs. The Spider

Now THIS is a famous match for reasons Iâ??ll get to at the end. Spider is in a mask. Joined in progress again and from November of 85. A flying headscissors gets two for Richter. Richter gets a â??clotheslineâ? for two. Small package looks to get two for Spider but when Richter is trying to kick out (and gets her shoulder up) the referee keeps counting three. And that my friends is a shoot.

Post match Wendi keeps going because that wasnâ??t the planned finish and rips the mask off to reveal Moolah. Hereâ??s what happened: Richter was having contract issues (details of which vary based on who is telling the story. Richter says money, Vince/WWF says her contract was up) and Vince decided to get the title off her. Spider Lady was supposed to be some random chick but instead it was Moolah, a legit tough chick. After this, Richter quit on the spot and left the arena in her gear. She never appeared again and allegedly never spoke to Moolah or Vince again. This is known as the Original Screwjob.

http://kbwrestlingreviews.com/2012/01/24/best-of-the-wwf-volume-5-thats-quite-a-main-event/

Sorry for the double post.

Awesome_Miz
03-15-2018, 01:52 AM
Why should the life of a wrestler outside the ring affect their in ring legacy? I never got this. Bussiness is bussiness and personal life is personal life.

The reason the personal issues of Moolah outside play a role in this whole battle royal in her memory is because what she did out the ring also affected the business. If this whole "pimping out" the girls to promoters and superstars were to be true then we should take into account that if one of them said no to sleeping around then they would get punish into quite possibly losing their jobs/career.

Now one could also say that she didn't do it because she build a legacy and others got jealous and Moolah denied the accusations. Of course Moolah would deny all the accusations that play dirty to her name as she didn't want to be known as the "bad person". However having these many women coming out and saying this of Moolah has to mean that there might be some truth to it.

Uncle Sam
03-15-2018, 04:36 AM
Thematically, it makes roughly one hundred times more sense to name a battle royal after the first woman to compete in a Royal Rumble match. You know, the one who was in porn, which is somehow worse than being a literal pimp.

Y 2 Jake
03-15-2018, 07:27 AM
I don't think you could call something the Chyna Memorial Battle Royal.

klunderbunker
03-15-2018, 02:56 PM
They actually changed the name. It's now the Wrestlemania Women's Battle Royal.

https://wrestlingrumors.net/wwe-drops-fabulous-moolah-memorial-battle-royal-name/

Jack-Hammer
03-15-2018, 03:18 PM
I don't believe Vince changed it because of fans necessarily bitching about it but because Snickers said that it was "unacceptable." Since Snickers is the chief sponsor of WrestleMania, Vince changed the name.

Vince still hasn't realized that WWE no longer exists in its own little bubble thanks to social media. Moolah was a major name, a multi-time women's World Champion, WWE and NWA Hall of Famer but that's simply outweighed by the stories about her that've been coming to light over the past few days. You know....you just had to know that Vince was and is fully aware of all those stories, probably even has first hand evidence as to whether or not any the rumors are true. Hell, it doesn't even matter if all of it's crap, the accusations are out there from multiple people over the span of Moolah's entire career and that's enough.