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FunKay
04-17-2018, 07:36 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJq9uqaR0aM

"By special request of Daniel Bryan, the Miz is coming to SmackDown Live?"

http://www.wwe.com/f/wysiwyg/image/2014/10/20141021_RawGOTN_v3.gif

So far, so-so. RAW drafted its selection of names in and its a middling affair. The biggest names are Bobby Roode and Jinder Mahal - who brought the United States Championship with him only to immediately lose it to Jeff Hardy - while the likes of Baron Corbin, Dolph Ziggler (with a debuting Drew McIntyre in tow), the Riott Squad and Natalya all made their way from Tuesday's to Monday's, thickening up the midcard (The Fashion Police, The Ascension, Mike Kanellis, Mojo Rawley, Zack Ryder and Chad Gable also made the jump). Oh, and Stephanie McMahon made her presence felt by rehiring Sami Zayn and Kevin Owens.

SmackDown Live now has its turn and with its midcard gutted, its in need of some rejuvenation, not to mention a midcard title. We know for a fact that Miz is coming over (per the special request of a certain Goat Faced Killah). Will the Intercontinental title follow its long term master via Seth Rollins? Or is Jeff Hardy perhaps going to bring the United States Championship back to the blue brand after only a night away? There's always the possiblity some big namers like Finn Balor or Braun Strowman can make the jump, not to mention the desperate need for fresh blood in the tag division and some fresh faces in the women's ranks. Lots of possibilities, lots of room for refreshment. Oh and maybe an NXT call up or two - El Idolo anyone?

Meanwhile, we know for a fact that SmackDown staples WWE Champion AJ Styles, Shinsuke Nacker-mura (nyuk, nyuk), Daniel Bryan, The Usos, Charlotte etc... all remain. With the major event over the last ten days (Nakamrua's turn to the dark sid, the debut of an Iconic Duo costing Charlotte her Women's Championship etc...) will we see some more events cemented for the SmackDown side of the two upcoming major shows - The Greatest Royal Rumble and Backlash? We'll just have to tune in to find out! Any predictions for the next round of the Shake-Up, put 'em down below and enjoy the show!

klunderbunker
04-17-2018, 07:06 PM
"He's a con artist."

Good line.

Skairipa
04-17-2018, 07:07 PM
Rusev vs AJ could be fun.

smarkmouth
04-17-2018, 07:08 PM
Why do they insist on pretending Pancha and Kuzco are heels?

BaconBits
04-17-2018, 07:11 PM
Why do they insist on pretending Pancha and Kuzco are heels?

Same reason they insist on pretending Roman is a face.

klunderbunker
04-17-2018, 07:12 PM
Paige doesn't look homeless anymore.

SD619
04-17-2018, 07:13 PM
Bryan is a permanent member of Smackdown, looks like Smackdown won the shake-up.

BaconBits
04-17-2018, 07:13 PM
Paige doesn't look homeless anymore.

Business casual suits her well.

Fire Marshall Bill
04-17-2018, 07:14 PM
Paige doesn't look homeless anymore.

Still canâ??t stand the bright red lipstick she overdoes. Looks terrible to me. Her old look was better.

Lee
04-17-2018, 07:17 PM
This reminded me of Vince's "Stop dancing" to Teddy.

Lee
04-17-2018, 07:18 PM
Eugh.

smarkmouth
04-17-2018, 07:19 PM
Shelton's claiming his Twitter got hacked. He was a member of Team Angle, after all.

Skairipa
04-17-2018, 07:20 PM
Well so much for my hope of Rollins to SD.

BaconBits
04-17-2018, 07:21 PM
Jeff Hardy to Smackdown makes tons of sense. The US title stays on the show and SD gets some star power.

Spidey
04-17-2018, 07:24 PM
Help! I've gone back 10 years into the past and Jeff Hardy is facing Shelton Benjamin.

smarkmouth
04-17-2018, 07:28 PM
Jeff's red stretchers just tricked me into thinking Shelton blew up Jeff's ear.

smarkmouth
04-17-2018, 07:29 PM
Help! I've gone back 10 years into the past and Jeff Hardy is facing Shelton Benjamin.

With a US Champ involved, no less.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbBmRalU8AApZsM.jpg:small

Lee
04-17-2018, 07:30 PM
This should have been a squash for Jeff.

klunderbunker
04-17-2018, 07:33 PM
That was adorable. And you shouldn't look like that three weeks after having a baby.

klunderbunker
04-17-2018, 07:34 PM
With a US Champ involved, no less.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbBmRalU8AApZsM.jpg:small

I said it felt like it was ten years ago.

Spidey
04-17-2018, 07:35 PM
Miz as a family man heel does things for my heart.

smarkmouth
04-17-2018, 07:36 PM
Mizanin and Bryan could be a generational feud!

BaconBits
04-17-2018, 07:36 PM
That was adorable. And you shouldn't look like that three weeks after having a baby.

Iâ??m sure the sunglasses were hiding some bags under her eyes. She ainâ??t sleeping much at this point.

Spidey
04-17-2018, 07:41 PM
Have the Bludgeon Brothers bludgeoned anybody yet?

BaconBits
04-17-2018, 07:41 PM
Naomi jogging down the ramp screaming was hilarious to me. It was so overly campy.

klunderbunker
04-17-2018, 07:44 PM
Well that's a monkey wrench in the Reigns theory.

smarkmouth
04-17-2018, 07:45 PM
Smackdown of Honor.

Spidey
04-17-2018, 07:45 PM
Chrisley Knows Best looks like absolute garbage. I'm sure it's a hit.

Skairipa
04-17-2018, 07:45 PM
YES! Joe is a nice one to move now he's the only big badass on SD rather than sharing a show with Roman, Brock, Corbin, Braun, etc.

BaconBits
04-17-2018, 07:45 PM
I like this move. SD basically sent all heels to RAW, it’s only right that they get one back.

Lee
04-17-2018, 07:46 PM
Chrisley Knows Best looks like absolute garbage. I'm sure it'll be a hit.

It has over 90 episodes. I thought the same last night.

BaconBits
04-17-2018, 07:47 PM
Chrisley Knows Best looks like absolute garbage. I'm sure it'll be a hit.

I’ve watched it. Is mildly entertaining background noise while I play games on my phone.

BaconBits
04-17-2018, 07:50 PM
Joe > Heyman.

Spidey
04-17-2018, 07:51 PM
**EDIT*** nah forgot he was in IC match. Seems so weird seeing WWE give a guy so much material to talk about. Used to ppv promo, ppv, next ppv promo.

klunderbunker
04-17-2018, 07:52 PM
It has over 90 episodes. I thought the same last night.

My mom, who loves low brow comedy, thinks it's hilarious.

smarkmouth
04-17-2018, 07:52 PM
Joe teasing bringing the IC and Universal title to Smackdown. I so badly want them to pull the trigger.

Skairipa
04-17-2018, 07:59 PM
Sanity is coming to SD too, that's a nice one.

And now Big Cass! SD is really being evened out this year.

Spidey
04-17-2018, 08:00 PM
My word that SAnity clip.

Spidey
04-17-2018, 08:01 PM
Sanity is coming to SD too, that's a nice one.

And now Big Cass! SD is really being evened out this year.

Are you happy, my dude?

mooseman
04-17-2018, 08:01 PM
Asuka debut now?

smarkmouth
04-17-2018, 08:02 PM
That SAnitY clip was great, but I hope that they're not renamed "Chaos".

Lee
04-17-2018, 08:02 PM
Are you happy, my dude?

Better than last week with his non stop bitching.

BaconBits
04-17-2018, 08:02 PM
Sanity is coming to SD too, that's a nice one.

And now Big Cass! SD is really being evened out this year.

I’m a Cass fan. I don’t think he works particularly well as a heel.

Lee
04-17-2018, 08:02 PM
Bullet club last night, Bellabration tonight.

klunderbunker
04-17-2018, 08:02 PM
White suits her quite well.

smarkmouth
04-17-2018, 08:05 PM
That SAnitY clip was great, but I hope that they're not renamed "Chaos".

Although I just learned a reason that they might. The original meaning of "SAnitY" with it's capitalizations were for it's members. Sawyer Fulton, Alexander Wolfe, Eric Young, with the lower case t for Nikki Cross

Now Sawyer Fulton anymore, and who know's who's losing a first name.

BestSportsEntertainer
04-17-2018, 08:05 PM
I'm gonna get crucified for this, but I think Carmella is much more interesting than Charlotte.

Lee
04-17-2018, 08:08 PM
I'm gonna get crucified for this, but I think Carmella is much more interesting than Charlotte.

She's brilliant.

Skairipa
04-17-2018, 08:08 PM
Are you happy, my dude?

Yes. Been a big SAnitY fan since their debut and I'm really looking forward to seeing how guys like Cass and Joe do on SD.

BaconBits
04-17-2018, 08:08 PM
I'm gonna get crucified for this, but I think Carmella is much more interesting than Charlotte.

Charlotte hasn’t evolved at all.

BestSportsEntertainer
04-17-2018, 08:09 PM
Lol I love these two

klunderbunker
04-17-2018, 08:10 PM
So......I wonder if Cena likes Nikki impersonators with an Australian accent.

BestSportsEntertainer
04-17-2018, 08:11 PM
Why didn't Becky save Charlotte last week?

SD619
04-17-2018, 08:12 PM
If Dunn doesn't like Becky's accent, can't imagine him liking these two a lot...

Spidey
04-17-2018, 08:12 PM
LayCool sound funny.

BaconBits
04-17-2018, 08:12 PM
Shame they let Emma go. A three woman Aussie wrecking crew would have been amazing.

Lee
04-17-2018, 08:14 PM
Why didn't Becky save Charlotte last week?

She's deaf so couldn't hear last week.

Lee
04-17-2018, 08:16 PM
If Dunn doesn't like Becky's accent, can't imagine him liking these two a lot...

Her accent is awful.

Skairipa
04-17-2018, 08:16 PM
Huh I thought we were getting a tag match with the IIconics and Charlotte/Becky.

BaconBits
04-17-2018, 08:16 PM
She's deaf so couldn't hear last week.

Becky’s character is dumb as fuck.

smarkmouth
04-17-2018, 08:19 PM
False alarm! They'll be SAnitY. The logo's there for a split second at the end.

Spidey
04-17-2018, 08:22 PM
Jesus the fivehead on Peyton

gives Sasha a run for her money.

Skairipa
04-17-2018, 08:24 PM
Really!? Bilie is ALREADY losing clean?

BestSportsEntertainer
04-17-2018, 08:25 PM
Really!? Bilie is ALREADY losing clean?

No way she should go over Charlotte in her first match on SD.

Skairipa
04-17-2018, 08:25 PM
Asuka is here too, SD women's division is gonna be stacked.

Skairipa
04-17-2018, 08:27 PM
No way she should go over Charlotte in her first match on SD.

Then she shouldn't be facing Charlotte in her first match on SD. But really why couldn't Peyton save her from tapping out? Or have Billie steal the win? Charlotte has stronger booking than Roman at times.

Lee
04-17-2018, 08:27 PM
That's how you prove there's some sort of women's revolution. Show how much it's improved without banging on about it.

SD619
04-17-2018, 08:29 PM
Cool, a new tag team for Bludgeon brothers to squash...

BestSportsEntertainer
04-17-2018, 08:30 PM
Then she shouldn't be facing Charlotte in her first match on SD. But really why couldn't Peyton save her from tapping out? Or have Billie steal the win? Charlotte has stronger booking than Roman at times.

Does Billie Kay really need to be protected?

Edit - I do agree Charlotte has been booked too strongly, but Vinces loves his blondes. See Alexa.

BaconBits
04-17-2018, 08:30 PM
Then she shouldn't be facing Charlotte in her first match on SD. But really why couldn't Peyton save her from tapping out? Or have Billie steal the win? Charlotte has stronger booking than Roman at times.

At times? She’s worse than Triple H’s reign of terror. The entire women’s division on both brands, save for Ronda, has been made her bitch. It’s fucking gross.

Spidey
04-17-2018, 08:33 PM
Y'all just don't recognize the best when you see it.

klunderbunker
04-17-2018, 08:34 PM
Ink in Hardy and Wyatt winning the titles.

Lee
04-17-2018, 08:34 PM
Y'all just don't recognize the best when you see it.

Exactly. She's improved tons and frankly it's needed. She just beat Asuka of course she'll beat new NXT person.

Skairipa
04-17-2018, 08:34 PM
Bar and Usos having a series of matches would be nice, their one Survivor Series match was pretty good.

Well here's the newest jobber to SD to make up for all the ones they lost.

Skairipa
04-17-2018, 08:35 PM
Y'all just don't recognize the best when you see it.

There's nothing wrong with her being the top dog of the division, but she wins way too often.

Spidey
04-17-2018, 08:35 PM
HOT DAMN IT'S R TRUTH

BaconBits
04-17-2018, 08:36 PM
Oblivious R-Truth will never not get a chuckle.

Skairipa
04-17-2018, 08:37 PM
Wait, Nikki Cross isn't coming up?

Almas!

klunderbunker
04-17-2018, 08:38 PM
Not a bad lineup of new Smackdown names. I'm pleased.

Lee
04-17-2018, 08:39 PM
OK take out Benjamin and SD! has the best for sure.

Skairipa
04-17-2018, 08:40 PM
Not a bad lineup of new Smackdown names. I'm pleased.

Oh yeah the rosters are nicely getting evened out finally. Seems like WWE realized Raw was way too stacked and SD was shit partly because of having very few names. Now if Road Dogg could just stop being on SD creative and we get a lot less Shane, SD is going to be great.

DNA 2.0
04-17-2018, 08:40 PM
Is anyone worth watching left on RAW??

DNA 2.0
04-17-2018, 08:42 PM
With that being said the SD line up looks amazing.

Jack-Hammer
04-17-2018, 08:42 PM
Overall, it looks like the blue brand came out a head in the shakeup and the rosters seem more balanced out than I can remember.

smarkmouth
04-17-2018, 08:42 PM
Might be Smackdown's best roster since the Smackdown Six. Let's see if Creative can keep up.

Jack-Hammer
04-17-2018, 08:43 PM
Aiden English kind of looks like a shorter, really pasty version of Cesaro.

Jack-Hammer
04-17-2018, 08:43 PM
Is Taker vs. Rusev back on?

Spidey
04-17-2018, 08:44 PM
There's nothing wrong with her being the top dog of the division, but she wins way too often.

I don't buy that. Asuka went years without losing, even dropping a title without giving anyone the rub. She left NXT and Raw full of people that lost to her vying for championships she proved were beneath her. Charlotte has a 57% win percentage on IWD. There's no way Charlotte wins too often when the girl she beat left divisions in worse shape than they were before she came along.

klunderbunker
04-17-2018, 08:46 PM
Is Taker vs. Rusev back on?

Announced yesterday. Allegedly it was changed because Rusev called Undertaker old in a quick promo. WWE canceled the match, THEN called Undertaker to ask if he was upset by the line. "Uh, no." The match was back on.

Lee
04-17-2018, 08:46 PM
So I think Joe will win the IC with Jeff losing US in Saudi.

Lee
04-17-2018, 08:47 PM
Announced yesterday. Allegedly it was changed because Rusev called Undertaker old in a quick promo. WWE canceled the match, THEN called Undertaker to ask if he was upset by the line. "Uh, no." The match was back on.

He didn't even call him old, TMZ ran with the headline. Even whats her face Mrs. Taker forgot her name said on Twitter that TMZ were stupid.

BestSportsEntertainer
04-17-2018, 08:48 PM
Is anyone worth watching left on RAW??

Well there's a certain Big Dog... and uhh... Maharaja?? Yeah Raw is gonna be a mess.

Edit - Don't forget Bacon's favorite wrestler

smarkmouth
04-17-2018, 08:49 PM
I feel like they only told Road Dogg about the Shakeup half an hour into tonight's show.

Skairipa
04-17-2018, 08:50 PM
I don't buy that. Asuka went years without losing, even dropping a title without giving anyone the rub. She left NXT and Raw full of people that lost to her vying for championships she proved were beneath her. Charlotte has a 57% win percentage on IWD. There's no way Charlotte wins too often when the girl she beat left divisions in worse shape than they were before she came along.

Personally I thought Ember should have ended Asuka's streak before she came up, so I get your point. But Asuka had very few booked to be on her level in NXT and on the main roster the only people she really beat that could have realistically made sense to beat her were Bayley, Sasha and Bliss. I don't include Nia because Nia lost to her 3 or 4 times in NXT.

Charlotte however is already what? A 5 time champion? And has beaten every single person she's faced on the main roster at least once including Asuka. And when Asuka came up against Charlotte not only did she lose but she basically kissed her ass after the match.

smarkmouth
04-17-2018, 08:52 PM
Is anyone worth watching left on RAW??

I'm honestly very intrigued by Chad Gable as a singles star, but I also worry they'll just have him treading water until Jordan returns for an Alpha reunion.

Skairipa
04-17-2018, 08:53 PM
He didn't even call him old, TMZ ran with the headline. Even whats her face Mrs. Taker forgot her name said on Twitter that TMZ were stupid.

Hey the Titus Mile Zone is not stupid.

Spidey
04-17-2018, 08:54 PM
She recognized the best.

EDIT: Not to fuck with social politics when watching wrestling, but when a guy kicks everybody's ass and becomes a 5 time champion of something, it's usually not a negative. Why it is for Charlotte is something I don't follow.

Jack-Hammer
04-17-2018, 08:57 PM
Man...Nakamura loves him some balls.

klunderbunker
04-17-2018, 08:57 PM
I love Nakamura being all about the groin shots.

BestSportsEntertainer
04-17-2018, 08:58 PM
EDIT: Not to fuck with social politics when watching wrestling, but when a guy kicks everybody's ass and becomes a 5 time champion of something, it's usually not a negative. Why it is for Charlotte is something I don't follow.

Everyone complains about Roman. Everyone complained about Cena. How is it different for Charlotte?

Skairipa
04-17-2018, 08:59 PM
Aiden English kind of looks like a shorter, really pasty version of Cesaro.

The two of them have joked about it on twitter, there's some older picturess of Cesaro that really look like Aiden.

klunderbunker
04-17-2018, 08:59 PM
She recognized the best.

EDIT: Not to fuck with social politics when watching wrestling, but when a guy kicks everybody's ass and becomes a 5 time champion of something, it's usually not a negative. Why it is for Charlotte is something I don't follow.
Wrestling fan logic: "WE WANT INSERT WRESTLER HERE!

Insert wrestler here is awesome and wins a lot.

Wrestling fans: ENOUGH ALREADY! WE WANT SOMETHING ELSE! THEY'RE NOT THAT GOOD!

Jack-Hammer
04-17-2018, 09:00 PM
With the "no speak English" catchphrase and the nutshots, Nakamura's becoming a genuinely good heel.

Spidey
04-17-2018, 09:00 PM
Everyone complains about Roman. Everyone complained about Cena. How is it different for Charlotte?

Because Charlotte simply hasn't won as much as was previously stated?

Lee
04-17-2018, 09:00 PM
There are better heels that do nut shots.

BestSportsEntertainer
04-17-2018, 09:01 PM
Wrestling fan logic: "WE WANT INSERT WRESTLER HERE!

Insert wrestler here is awesome and wins a lot.

Wrestling fans: ENOUGH ALREADY! WE WANT SOMETHING ELSE! THEY'RE NOT THAT GOOD!

Those wrestling fans also wanted Bayley and Sasha.

And both of them were made to look like crap due to Charlotte's push.

How is this any different than Roman Reigns?

Skairipa
04-17-2018, 09:03 PM
Wrestling fan logic: "WE WANT INSERT WRESTLER HERE!

Insert wrestler here is awesome and wins a lot.

Wrestling fans: ENOUGH ALREADY! WE WANT SOMETHING ELSE! THEY'RE NOT THAT GOOD!

When it gets to be super booking is when it's too much for some.

BaconBits
04-17-2018, 09:03 PM
She recognized the best.

EDIT: Not to fuck with social politics when watching wrestling, but when a guy kicks everybody's ass and becomes a 5 time champion of something, it's usually not a negative. Why it is for Charlotte is something I don't follow.

Dominant guys typically donâ??t have wins over literally everyone else in the division.

Lee
04-17-2018, 09:05 PM
She beat someone who's just been called up. It makes sense to do that. It doesn't make sense to have her tap but fuck people have to lose.

Spidey
04-17-2018, 09:09 PM
Dominant guys typically don’t have wins over literally everyone else in the division.

...what?

Lee
04-17-2018, 09:11 PM
The fact I need to explain booking to you:
- Charlotte beat someone on a 2 1/2 year streak (wouldn't it be good if you did that?)
- Iiconics debuted and kicked the shit out of her causing her to lose the title
- Charlotte wanted her title back so confronts Carmella
- Iiconics interupt and kick the shit out of her, again.
- Deaf girl saves
- Long match that pushes charlotte to the edge whilst the commentators point out how furious charlotte is and this has riled her up
- Aftermatch Charlotte is beaten again

But yeah Charlotte is getting pushed too much.

Lee
04-17-2018, 09:13 PM
Genuine question Matrix, do you even like wrestling? You shit on it every week and fail to understand the basics.

BestSportsEntertainer
04-17-2018, 09:14 PM
The fact I need to explain booking to you:
- Charlotte beat someone on a 2 1/2 year streak (wouldn't it be good if you did that?)
- Iiconics debuted and kicked the shit out of her causing her to lose the title
- Charlotte wanted her title back so confronts Carmella
- Iiconics interupt and kick the shit out of her, again.
- Deaf girl saves
- Long match that pushes charlotte to the edge whilst the commentators point out how furious charlotte is and this has riled her up
- Aftermatch Charlotte is beaten again

But yeah Charlotte is getting pushed too much.

You're talking about tonight and ignoring the last 2 years.

Spidey
04-17-2018, 09:16 PM
Go look up Charlotte's win-loss record. Now go look at Bayley's. Come back to me with a straight face and tell me how Charlotte wins too often.

Skairipa
04-17-2018, 09:17 PM
Genuine question Matrix, do you even like wrestling? You shit on it every week and fail to understand the basics.

I shit on it but I also praise what I like about it. Same as any other fan. I fully understand the basics.

Edit: I complained about one thing tonight, and praised basically everything else tonight. And I'm over critical?

Lee
04-17-2018, 09:19 PM
You're talking about tonight and ignoring the last 2 years.

Yes because that's where the argument started that she shouldn't have won tonight.

Fucking hell.

klunderbunker
04-17-2018, 09:21 PM
Smackdown
Date: April 17, 2018
Location: Dunkin Donuts Center, Providence, Rhode Island
Commentators: Tom Phillips, Corey Graves, Byron Saxton

It’s the second half of the Superstar Shakeup and that means we’re likely to see some of the same people that we saw last night. The only confirmed move to Smackdown is the Miz, meaning we’re counting down the days until Miz vs. Daniel Bryan, which should be a major match on a big stage. Let’s get to it.

Click on the link below for the full review.

Load The Wrestling Shows With The Interesting Pieces (http://kbwrestlingreviews.com/2018/04/17/smackdown-april-17-2018-load-the-wrestling-shows-with-the-interesting-pieces/)

klunderbunker
04-17-2018, 09:21 PM
Those wrestling fans also wanted Bayley and Sasha.

And both of them were made to look like crap due to Charlotte's push.

How is this any different than Roman Reigns?

Charlotte has gotten the desired reaction more than twice.

klunderbunker
04-17-2018, 09:23 PM
The fact I need to explain booking to you:
- Charlotte beat someone on a 2 1/2 year streak (wouldn't it be good if you did that?)
- Iiconics debuted and kicked the shit out of her causing her to lose the title
- Charlotte wanted her title back so confronts Carmella
- Iiconics interupt and kick the shit out of her, again.
- Deaf girl saves
- Long match that pushes charlotte to the edge whilst the commentators point out how furious charlotte is and this has riled her up
- Aftermatch Charlotte is beaten again

But yeah Charlotte is getting pushed too much.

I read the end of that first and thought "he's smarter than this." Thank you for proving me right.

Spidey
04-17-2018, 09:37 PM
No seriously though when it comes to dominant guys not having wins over everyone in their division ...what?

Lee
04-17-2018, 11:21 PM
"Is he going to be ok?"
"no"

SSJPhenom
04-18-2018, 03:53 PM
You know the women's revolution is working when the most entertaining segment of either show this week was the women's segment on Smackdown which started with the "Mellabration". It was brilliant.