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Slyfox696
04-17-2018, 12:45 PM
The following match is scheduled for one fall. The match is held in Orlando, Florida and is a Sweet 16 matchup. All seeds represent overall tournament seeding.



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#3 Brock Lesnar

vs.
#19 Kurt Angle






The discussion period will last for two days, followed by two days for voting. You may vote for whomever you feel deserves to win this match. Please post your reasons below if you wish.

Undying
04-17-2018, 03:10 PM
As a kid I was a huge fan of Brock and his match against Angle at WrestleMania XIX was the most I have ever been excited about for a match. You have two guys who are legit athletes with several accolades in amateur wrestling to include NCAA titles. Both multiple time Pro wrestling champions. Against each other I would say it's pretty even with I think 2 wins each apiece (WrestleMania XIX: Lesnar, Summerslam 03: Angle, Ironman match: Lesnar, IWGP/TNA title match: Angle). There's definitely a strong case for both and this is harder than I thought it would be.

I'm going to have to go with Angle on this one. It's been reported he legit took down Brock backstage and he also got to a higher level amateur wise if you want to go that route. Kayfabe wise he has more titles and has beaten the same guys that Brock has as well as having made Brock tap multiple times. Kurt was always kind of that kryptonite for Lesnar as he just steamrolled through everyone but always broke a sweat when wrestling Angle. So yeah, voting Kurt via tap out to the Ankle Lock but by a hair.

Also just imagine this match in MMA if Kurt when that route after the Olympics and Brock did as well straight out of college.

Gazprom
04-19-2018, 11:54 AM
There are three or four facets that make someone a great professional wrestler, and whilst Lesnar may have more of the look and is obviously stronger, Angle has the other qualities in significantly more abundance. Lesnar is boring and can't talk, and in modern wrestling that's vital. He's been booked like a freak show and I'm not sure anyone will long for his return once he finally does suplex off into the sunset.

Spidey
04-19-2018, 01:12 PM
Voting for Kurt because he can be funny or serious and in the age of perpetual sarcasm that's a neat trick.

JGlass
04-19-2018, 01:27 PM
There are three or four facets that make someone a great professional wrestler, and whilst Lesnar may have more of the look and is obviously stronger, Angle has the other qualities in significantly more abundance. Lesnar is boring and can't talk, and in modern wrestling that's vital. He's been booked like a freak show and I'm not sure anyone will long for his return once he finally does suplex off into the sunset.

I think people have already got tired of the Brock Lesnar bowling through the WWE like a bull in a china shop. Isn't that why people were rooting for Roman Reigns of all people to go over Brock at Mania?

That said, I think that creates a fairly strong argument for Lesnar: with Lesnar's current booking (and I don't think he (or anyone since Hulk Hogan) has ever been booked to look stronger) there's no way he'd lose at this stage of the tournament, especially to a guy who was always near the top but never quite there, like Kurt Angle.

On the other hand, if you vote for which wrestler you believe to be the superior performer overall, there's no question that it's Angle. I'll be voting for Angle here because the only thing he doesn't do better than Brock is be booked to be a monster.

SSJPhenom
04-19-2018, 01:39 PM
It's obvious who the better draw of the two is and while I'm sure everyone and their mothers would say Angle is a better in ring performer; I'd say don't let Suplex City blind you to what Brock can actually do. Brock can go. We've seen him go against Angle and have some of the absolute best matches of the early 2000s. They both have 2 wins against one another with Brock having the biggest win in the main event of 'Mania. That wasn't even Brock's prime, though. If Lesnar now, faced Angle then, well you guys know the story. Suplex City, no sell, F5.

Vote Brock.

JGlass
04-19-2018, 01:44 PM
It's obvious who the better draw of the two is and while I'm sure everyone and their mothers would say Angle is a better in ring performer; I'd say don't let Suplex City blind you to what Brock can actually do. Brock can go. We've seen him go against Angle and have some of the absolute best matches of the early 2000s. They both have 2 wins against one another with Brock having the biggest win in the main event of 'Mania. That wasn't even Brock's prime, though. If Lesnar now, faced Angle then, well you guys know the story. Suplex City, no sell, F5.

Vote Brock.

I don't think anyone would argue that Brock isn't capable of putting on a great show.

It's just that Angle is demonstrably better.

Stone Cold Tea
04-19-2018, 01:50 PM
It's obvious who the better draw of the two is and while I'm sure everyone and their mothers would say Angle is a better in ring performer; I'd say don't let Suplex City blind you to what Brock can actually do. Brock can go. We've seen him go against Angle and have some of the absolute best matches of the early 2000s. They both have 2 wins against one another with Brock having the biggest win in the main event of 'Mania. That wasn't even Brock's prime, though. If Lesnar now, faced Angle then, well you guys know the story. Suplex City, no sell, F5.

Vote Brock.

Brock Lesnar VS AJ Style from Survior Series 17 tells me that prime Brock vs prime Angle wouldn't be suplex city, no sell, F5x

BestSportsEntertainer
04-19-2018, 07:35 PM
Angle was a lot more entertaining for me, so I'm voting for him.

There's nothing interesting about suplex, suplex, suplex, suplex, suplex, suplex, F5, F5, F5, pinfall.

Gazprom
04-19-2018, 11:28 PM
That said, I think that creates a fairly strong argument for Lesnar: with Lesnar's current booking (and I don't think he (or anyone since Hulk Hogan) has ever been booked to look stronger) there's no way he'd lose at this stage of the tournament, especially to a guy who was always near the top but never quite there, like Kurt Angle.



Actually the opposite is true. If Lesnar wasn’t going to win the tournament, he would absolutely go out early. In the same way that Hogan did at WrestleMania IV. It’s a lot easier to write someone out earlier on without having them lose clean. Angle is one of the only people to have ever been booked as a threat to Lesnar, if you wanted rid, as you surely would, now is the time.

Echelon
04-19-2018, 11:43 PM
This is Lesnar. No contest. He's the biggest star in the WWE not named John Cena, and has been since 2014. He's arguably the face of the WWE right now, and has been since last year. Kurt Angle was never the face of the WWE. There were times when he wasn't even the #2, #3, or #4 guy. Even in TNA, he had to share the top spot with a much older Sting, and that was in a much smaller promotion than the WWE.

Brock Lesnar will be remembered as the top wrestler and box office draw of the 2010's, where as Kurt Angle will be remembered an occasional headliner who occasionally held the title for short periods of time.

Lesnar wins.