Roseanne Canceled After Roseanne Barr Sends Out Racist Tweet

[klunderbunker]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/roseanne-barr-apologizes-tweet-comparing-obama-adviser-ape-n878171

So after sending out a tweet saying that one of Obama's advisers looked like the child of the Muslim Brotherhood and Planet of the Apes, the ratings hit revival of Roseanne was abruptly canceled after having been renewed for a second season. Of course this is the product of someone saying something stupid and getting in trouble for it, as she should. However, given that Trump has taken credit for the ratings (Barr is an outspoken Trump supporter) and Barr is one of the biggest conservative comediennes around, how bad do you think the reactions will be?

[Fallout]

It was a dumb tweet, and ABC were in their right to cancel the show. I couldn't imagine the PR nightmare Disney (parent company) would suffer if they allowed it.

[Jack-Hammer]

I'm sure the right wing conspirators are out in force today over this.

Roseanne Barr's always had a big mouth and it's gotten her into trouble at various times in the past, but this is a new era and some thing just won't be tolerated. It was an idiotic thing to tweet and the ones I feel sorry for are the rest of the cast and crew.

Off an on, I've read a few comments today regarding how it violates free speech and all that and it always makes my head hurt that people in this day and age still don't grasp the basic fundamentals of what free speech is. Roseanne had every right under the Constitution to say what she said, as idiotic as it was, without having the cops bust down her door and haul her to jail. She didn't encourage anyone to go out and break the law, nor did she instruct others to commit criminal acts, hence her speech is protected from criminal prosecution. However, her right to free speech doesn't protect her from whatever consequences come down on her head due to exercising her right to free speech. Somedays, I wanna call my boss a 190 pound sack of monkey puss, but I don't. Know why? Not because I did or said anything that was against the law, but because I insulted the man who has the power and authority to wish me well in my future endeavors, or AKA fire my dumb ass. If I go to social media and start tossing out racial slurs, then I'd have to face whatever consequences might come about in my professional or personal life.

I'm sure at the production company that owns the show will try to shop it around eventually, don't be surprised to see it get picked up by Fox in a year or so.

[Big Nick Dudley]

She is a trashbag, always was. I enjoyed her the least of any character on that show. I would simply kill her off and change the name to "Dan." Problem solved.

[jmt225]

Hundreds of jobs lost because she couldn't keep her big fat mouth shut and couldn't resist sharing her bigotry views. Pathetic...

[#AbsoluteUnit]

I'm surprised she has been on air this long.

[Alex]

Having never watched the show I don't know if its any good etc. But it sucks for all the other people on the show. Surely they could have just fired her and kept it going. I know John Goodman is on it, couldn't they just change it to his character?

[Fallout]

Having never watched the show I don't know if its any good etc. But it sucks for all the other people on the show. Surely they could have just fired her and kept it going. I know John Goodman is on it, couldn't they just change it to his character?

I'm not overly familiar with the show, but it would be like having Seinfeld without Seinfeld. Sure, you have Jason Alexander and some other talented cast members, but the focal point of the show is gone.

The Thick Of It was more fortunate, in that when the main star of the first two seasons was convicted of having child pornography, they could then focus the series on Malcolm Tucker; because the show was not predicated on Chris Langham's character.

[Big Nick Dudley]

I'm not overly familiar with the show, but it would be like having Seinfeld without Seinfeld. Sure, you have Jason Alexander and some other talented cast members, but the focal point of the show is gone.

The Thick Of It was more fortunate, in that when the main star of the first two seasons was convicted of having child pornography, they could then focus the series on Malcolm Tucker; because the show was not predicated on Chris Langham's character.

Never compare Roseanne to Jerry Seinfeld. She was the worst character on the show. She could easily be written out and no one would care.

[Fallout]

Never compare Roseanne to Jerry Seinfeld. She was the worst character on the show. She could easily be written out and no one would care.

Like I said, I'm not familiar with Roseanne. But I always prefered Elaine, Costanza and Kramer (before Michael Richards went crazy) to Jerry.

[Jack-Hammer]

I sorta have to disagree with the underestimation of how important the show was during its initial run. There weren't a lot of shows on TV during the 80s & early 90s featuring a working class, blue collar family in which the mother character was not only the central character, but was also this brash, ballsy loud mouth who said exactly what was on her mind. It wasn't some runway or bikini model, or some other hottie playing the role in which she was gorgeous while the hubby was an overweight, blue collar working man. What I mean is that a lot of sitcoms often feature generally "normal" guys who're married to women who you'd think, just simply based on appearance, would be way out of their league and that wasn't the case here. She was as chubby, as blue collar as "common" as he was and all of that was a rarity. Sort of picture a female Archie Bunker, just without most of the racism, and that's pretty much Roseanne. The show also featured recurring characters who were gay in prominent ways which, again, was very much a rarity during those days; jokes were made because of their homosexuality, as you'd imagine, but, again, it was a very different time in some instances in which bigotry to a certain degree was tolerated. Also, and let's be honest, at some point in our lives, I'd be willing to bet that just about everyone here has laughed and will laugh again at jokes regarding the LGBT community, African Americans, Hispanics, overweight people, etc. that aren't exactly PC. The show was edgy and some of it would be over the line today, but nothing they ever did or said on the show was remotely close to the crap Roseanne was tweeting.

I hadn't watched any of the new episodes that'd been airing but I'm not surprised they were drawing like 20 million viewers. A lot of those viewers have identified themselves as people who're essentially tired of Political Correctness and they like a show with a central character who feels the same way on the show and in real life. I mean, it's far easier to lash out at someone and call them the offspring of the Muslim Brotherhood and the Planet of the Apes than it is to grow, learn and evolve as a person.

[Spidey]

Trump somehow made this about himself and that's the cherry on top of this full diaper.

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I think we knew in the back of our minds Roseanne Barr would say something stupid enough to get cancelled eventually.

A quick look at her Twitter page is like looking into a cold abyss.

[Fallout]

Kathy Griffin got fired for holding a decapitated head of you Trump, you persecution complex victim.

[TheManTheyCalledNorCal]

I've got my periscope out looking for all those people who were outraged over NFL owners not wanting to deal with a bunch of horse shit because a backup qb wanted to exercise his freedom of speech.

To be clear I'm all for both parties exercising their rights and also being held to account for the manner in which they chose to do so.

[TheManTheyCalledNorCal]

Like I said, I'm not familiar with Roseanne. But I always prefered Elaine, Costanza and Kramer (before Michael Richards went crazy) to Jerry.

I think Dan is everyone's favorite. It would be interesting to see how they handled it.

[BaconBits]

Social media brings out the full retard in a lot of people. People don't expect consequences over the dumb shit they post, even though real life consequences cam and do happen all the time. Freedom of speech only means you can't get prosecuted specifically for what you say. It doesn't protect you from other consequences.

[Fallout]

Social media brings out the full retard in a lot of people. People don't expect consequences over the dumb shit they post, even though real life consequences cam and do happen all the time. Freedom of speech only means you can't get prosecuted specifically for what you say. It doesn't protect you from other consequences.

There's a trope in cartoons where a character will think forward to the future, and they're about to receive some honour, like graduating from university, or becoming the president, when someone will suddenly interrupt the ceremony, bring up something arbitrary, and the character will end up befalling some horrible fate. Here's my favourite example of it:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOMn06mIKvM

In this day and age, where what you post on social media matters more and more, one mistake can ruin your entire life. People have always said dumb shit, but it's easier than ever before to document it in the age of digital information, and hold it against them forever. I'm not defending Roseanne (I've been critical of her and Trump in this very thread), but I do think real life consequences over dumb shit said on social media is a dangerous precedent we're setting. I'm fine with ABC making the decision to get rid of the show, because she said this whilst contracted, but I think over the next twenty years, with a new wave of celebrities, people will be combing for old social media posts to shame them with.

[BaconBits]

There's a trope in cartoons where a character will think forward to the future, and they're about to receive some honour, like graduating from university, or becoming the president, when someone will suddenly interrupt the ceremony, bring up something arbitrary, and the character will end up befalling some horrible fate. Here's my favourite example of it:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOMn06mIKvM

In this day and age, where what you post on social media matters more and more, one mistake can ruin your entire life. People have always said dumb shit, but it's easier than ever before to document it in the age of digital information, and hold it against them forever. I'm not defending Roseanne (I've been critical of her and Trump in this very thread), but I do think real life consequences over dumb shit said on social media is a dangerous precedent we're setting. I'm fine with ABC making the decision to get rid of the show, because she said this whilst contracted, but I think over the next twenty years, with a new wave of celebrities, people will be combing for old social media posts to shame them with.


People do already comb over past tweets and posts to regurgitate em and jump on the high horse.

Thereâ??s a large part of me that believes the creation social media is the worst thing humans have done to this point. Not only because the constant virtue signaling (for lack of a better term) from all areas of the political spectrum, but itâ??s also responsible for a serious breakdown of legitimate social skills.

[nightmare]

It also gives a platform for the uninformed ignorants to spread their dumbassery. Snowflakes of the world need to feel their voice is heard.

The Conners will do fine for a season. Then fall off the cliff because Roseanne was the attraction. ABC knew what they were dealing with and shouldnt have acted like it was such a shock she said something controversial. Dan and Darlene have their moments, but without Roseanne to play off it will lose steam quick.

[Fallout]

There is a huge amount of hypocrisy within the entertainment industry with regards to what happened with Peter Fonda and his far more barbaric comments recently.

[smarkmouth]

Dan and Darlene have their moments, but without Roseanne to play off it will lose steam quick.

Easy solution. Dan remarries. Not just any old second marriage. He marries another beloved late-80s sitcom star.https://2glory.de/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Alf-Quiz.jpg

[jmt225]

I never watched Two and a Half Men but I remember people strongly believing the show would fall apart without Charlie Sheen. However, it remained a massive ratings hit for years afterward.

I wouldn't be surprised if 'The Conners' have similar success.

[Slyfox696]

I will most definitely watch The Connors. Roseanne's character was usually the most annoying anyways.

There is a huge amount of hypocrisy within the entertainment industry with regards to what happened with Peter Fonda and his far more barbaric comments recently.I'd love to hear what you think is the hypocrisy.

[Fallout]

I'd love to hear what you think is the hypocrisy.

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Roseanne's joke was stupid. This is completely unhinged, and yet he was given little more than a slap on the wrist. Either punish them both, or don't punish either, don't make one rule for Roseanne and another for Peter Fonda.

[jmt225]

What exactly could Peter Fonda's punishment be? He's not a star of a hit TV show, and he's not filming some big blockbuster film everyone knows about. So how do you punish him?

[Slyfox696]

Roseanne's joke was stupid. This is completely unhingedUnhinged? No, it is LITERALLY happening to hundreds, if not thousands of parents. It's not unhinged to want those responsible to have empathy. If you think it is unhinged, then you should feel EXACTLY the same as Fonda, because what is "unhinged" about it is what is happening to thousands of children.

Don't get me wrong, what Fonda said was not okay...but neither is what is actually happening. That's not hypocrisy, what Fonda said LITERALLY is happening right now to other children.


and yet he was given little more than a slap on the wrist. Either punish them both, or don't punish either, don't make one rule for Roseanne and another for Peter Fonda.Roseanne made a racist remark to someone who had zero ability to change anything about her appearance. Fonda wanted the same thing to happen to Trump's child that is happening to other children, so Trump would understand what these other parents are going through.

Did he go too far in making his point? Yes. Is his point any less valid? Absolutely not. What Roseanne said was out of total bigotry, what Fonda said was out of anger/frustration for the people responsible for ripping children away from their parents and putting them in cages.

That's not hypocrisy when discussing the differing consequences, even if we accept the fictitious argument Peter Fonda and Roseanne are somehow in the exact same situation.

[samuel]

I'm surprised she has been on air this long.

yeah

[Fire Marshall Bill]

I never watched Two and a Half Men but I remember people strongly believing the show would fall apart without Charlie Sheen. However, it remained a massive ratings hit for years afterward.

I wouldn't be surprised if 'The Conners' have similar success.

I never watched the new Roseanne, but boy was Two and a Half Men awful with Ashton Kutcher. I’m surprised it made it four seasons.

[nightmare]

Roseanne will be fine, its not the worst thing shes said or done. Hell, Tim Allen used to sell blow and he is still earning a check. Next month people wilk have something else to talk about and it wont be a big deal.

[EnviousDominous]

I'm a little late to this discussion, but I figure I should add my two cents.

ABC is owned by Disney. I make that point to indicate the biggest reason by Roseanne was fired.

I don't mean to trivialize the issue of racism or take a side on the idea that maybe Roseanne didn't realize that Valerie Jarrett has African American roots. I'm just saying that Disney is notorious for not taking chances with individuals that upset the public regarding a hot button social issue.

I would have probably fired Roseanne as well, mainly because of how she chose to blame her meds and act as if she meant the insult to be indicative of Valerie Jarrett's Persian roots. My opinion; if you say racist things when you're intoxicated, that doesn't make you any less racist than if you had made that comment while sober. Also; if you really feel that you've been falsely accused of racism toward Black people for something that you said, claiming that you're actually racist toward Iranians is no solution.