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Yer Maw
06-19-2018, 02:21 PM
And you can't teach That!

Spidey
06-19-2018, 02:28 PM
Seems such an odd turn of events.

BestSportsEntertainer
06-19-2018, 02:43 PM
Seems really abrupt. He had backstage heat, apparently more than we thought.

I wasn't the biggest fan, but I kinda feel for the guy. He was about to get a push but then got injured. Then he breaks up with Carmella and gets released soon after.

Edit - And I guess that's what happens when you're not ready for Daniel Bryan

Jeff Deliverer of Mail
06-19-2018, 02:57 PM
Probably asked for a release thinking he's better than what he's been given from WWE. IMO he sucks, won't miss him at all. Reminded me of a crappy taller version of Test.

Wildcat66
06-19-2018, 04:02 PM
I JUST now heard about this. All I have to say is...huh?

I mean, Cass wasn't the best in ring worker or anything, but the guy was proving to be a solid performer and he was doing some good mic work as well. The fact they didn't give him 'future endeavors' also surprises me. It sounds like he did something to really piss people off.

#AbsoluteUnit
06-19-2018, 04:10 PM
Funny, Carmella outlasted both Enzo and Big Cass.

jmt225
06-19-2018, 04:14 PM
Good riddance.

I'm sure he'll have a blast working with Kongo Kong in TNA.

Jack-Hammer
06-19-2018, 04:22 PM
An interesting little tidbit is WWE's official announcement:

"WWE has come to terms on the release of William Morrissey (Big Cass)."

They didn't even wish him well in his future endeavors. Either Cass had some mega heat backstage, did or said something recently that led to his immediate release or requested his own release.

Jack-Hammer
06-19-2018, 04:27 PM
Funny, Carmella outlasted both Enzo and Big Cass.

I dunno. It's not so surprising when you think about it.

Carmella - Hot blonde that's a former professional dancer and certified fitness instructor with the body to prove it.

Enzo Amore - Obnoxious 30 year old going on 15 years old too stupid to know when to keep his mouth shut and barely knows the basics of in-ring work.

Big Cass - Slow, plodding 7 footer that was average in the ring but would get hostile towards people backstage who didn't share his views.

So yeah...I'd keep Carmella instead of those two any ol' day of the week.

Jack-Hammer
06-19-2018, 06:44 PM
Uncle Dave is reporting that Vince McMahon called a private meeting earlier today backstage in Toledo, where tonight's episode of SmackDown Live is taking place, and fired him. If true, then it sounds like Vince personally fired Cass and, though I may be wrong, I don't think that happens all that often anymore.

#AbsoluteUnit
06-19-2018, 07:09 PM
I dunno. It's not so surprising when you think about it.

Carmella - Hot blonde that's a former professional dancer and certified fitness instructor with the body to prove it.

Enzo Amore - Obnoxious 30 year old going on 15 years old too stupid to know when to keep his mouth shut and barely knows the basics of in-ring work.

Big Cass - Slow, plodding 7 footer that was average in the ring but would get hostile towards people backstage who didn't share his views.

So yeah...I'd keep Carmella instead of those two any ol' day of the week.

Remember, Enzo and Cass debuted together, much earlier than Carmella did.

Spidey
06-19-2018, 07:40 PM
Nothing against her work but the place was on fire when Enzo & Cass debuted. People are excited for Carmella when a comedy jobber stands next to her.

#AbsoluteUnit
06-19-2018, 08:48 PM
Jack-hammer, you seem to like Uncle Dave a lot.

Wildcat66
06-19-2018, 09:18 PM
Jack-hammer, you seem to like Uncle Dave a lot.

Say what you want about him as a person or as a reviewer, but you can't deny that he is the go to guy for news and rumors when it comes to wrestling.

In the terms of Cass: I feel like Cass could've been at the very least a solid heel as their answer to Baron Corbin, probably not someone who can main event but can fill the role if need be and capable of being a great foil to other workers. At the very least, i'd assume he would have a brief world title reign. Regardless, what's done is done and now we can only wonder what his career could've been like and what happened that caused his release.

On that note, allow me to extend my congratulations to Carmella for being the last member of Team SAWFT standing.

#AbsoluteUnit
06-19-2018, 09:31 PM
Say what you want about him as a person or as a reviewer, but you can't deny that he is the go to guy for news and rumors when it comes to wrestling.

That's just it. I don't care about his news and predictions. Sports Entertainment/professional wrestling is pre-determined. I don't hate the guy, but I don't understand the massive dick riding the dude gets.

SSJPhenom
06-20-2018, 01:22 PM
Rumors going around the mill were that this was coming down the pike and the only reason it didn't come sooner was because of the advertised match with Bryan.

Apparently, he was specifically told not to beat up that little person on Smackdown a few weeks back. He was supposed to only deliver a big boot and that's it. He asked if he could do more to get some more heat and was out and out told NO. He did it anyway. Then there were all kinds of negative rumors coming from their European tour. Rumors such as Cass being drunk in public and acting belligerent. He apparently broke a restroom after being locked in it. There were other things as well pertaining to his attitude.

My guess is that he had mega backstage heat and they were fed up. Also, botching that drop toe hold at MitB probably didn't help as he got an audible 'you can't wrestle' chant for that. Oh well, no huge loss. I wish him well.

Y 2 Jake
06-20-2018, 04:27 PM
When you have a giant like Braun Strowman it only highlights the deficiencies in somebody like Cass.

Sean Valjean
06-20-2018, 09:54 PM
I only now found out about this. I've heard rumors that Cass rubbed people the wrong way backstage, and the story about him going into business for himself with the midget didn't do him favors. Yet he still wrestled two PPV bouts against Bryan. Sure, he lost both, but I assumed he'd just be in the dog house for a while. Cass must have created a whole new mess for himself for Vince to jettison him out of the company this suddenly.

Another example of how funny wrestling can be sometimes. Enzo & Cass were the hottest team since New Day and could have been a merchandise machine for years. Not only did they never capture a tag title, but now both are out of the company after only two years on the main roster. Carmella has become far and away the most successful of the SAWFT trio when she was easily its weakest link. Good for her as she's clearly worked her butt off to improve.

Cass could have been something special. But like his tag partner, he seemed to have a knack for pissing off the wrong people.

Jack-Hammer
06-21-2018, 07:24 PM
I only now found out about this. I've heard rumors that Cass rubbed people the wrong way backstage, and the story about him going into business for himself with the midget didn't do him favors. Yet he still wrestled two PPV bouts against Bryan. Sure, he lost both, but I assumed he'd just be in the dog house for a while. Cass must have created a whole new mess for himself for Vince to jettison him out of the company this suddenly.

Another example of how funny wrestling can be sometimes. Enzo & Cass were the hottest team since New Day and could have been a merchandise machine for years. Not only did they never capture a tag title, but now both are out of the company after only two years on the main roster. Carmella has become far and away the most successful of the SAWFT trio when she was easily its weakest link. Good for her as she's clearly worked her butt off to improve.

Cass could have been something special. But like his tag partner, he seemed to have a knack for pissing off the wrong people.

As had been mentioned, aside from the thing "Little Bryan", Cass had some other things that just now seem to be coming out, at least according to the WON. One issue was that Cass had blown off rehearsal for a promo that Kevin Dunn wanted to do, some sources claim that it happened only once while others say it happened multiple times. Cass did eventually do the promo but it wasn't appreciated that he blew it off. Another problem seems to have sprung up during WWE's European tour in which Cass, while traveling with other talent via bus and wound up locking himself in the shitter. Well, Cass thought he was being pranked, got pissed and kicked down the door only to find out it wasn't a prank and that he'd accidentally locked himself in. As a result, nobody else on the bus could use the can with privacy and WWE had to pay for damages. It was also mentioned in some reports that a big blow up Cass had in regards to his defense of Donald Trump was with Sami Zayn in regards to how Trump's policies, or attempts to get certain initiatives passed, treated Muslims. People look at Sami Zayn and forget that not only is he of Syrian descent, but he's also a practicing Muslim; of course, just because you're about as white as white can get doesn't mean you can't be a follower of the Muslim faith, it's simply that most followers of Islam just don't look or sound like Sami Zayn. There are also rumors that Cass has been been "big dogging" some talent in the locker rooms, which means he's been throwing his weight around and has actually told some of them to leave which, if true, could be a major issue. Yet another rumor going about was Cass drinking heavily while on the tour, and he's apparently a mean drunk as it led to arguments and words with others on the tour, and he made public appearances for the company while intoxicated.

If all of this is true, which I'm sure at least some of it is, then Cass strikes me as someone who felt he was a much bigger deal and much more important in the company than he actually was. My guess, Vince decided to fire him sometime within the past few weeks but wanted to wait until Cass had put Bryan over rather than just let him go and scrap the whole feud in the middle of things. Personally, I don't really see it as any sort of loss. As Jake alluded to, there's nothing at all Cass has brought to the table that Braun Strowman can't do and do a lot better.

smarkmouth
06-22-2018, 04:29 PM
According to wrestlingnews.co. I'm not familiar with this source so make of it what you will;


We were told that he went up to her and, according to a well-placed source, caused a scene while asking her to forgive him, apparently in hopes for a reconciliation. Carmella tried to walk off but he grabbed her arm and wrestlers in the area stepped in. WeĆ¢??re told that The Usos and Erick Rowan were the ones to get Cass to back away.

If true, this takes a sharp turn from oh well into good riddance. There are also rumours circulating that Cass threatened 205 Live announcer Vic Joseph over simply talking to Carmella.

So long, farewell. Enjoy the star studded lights of Ryback's podcast or something.

Wildcat66
06-22-2018, 06:23 PM
According to wrestlingnews.co. I'm not familiar with this source so make of it what you will;



If true, this takes a sharp turn from oh well into good riddance. There are also rumours circulating that Cass threatened 205 Live announcer Vic Joseph over simply talking to Carmella.

So long, farewell. Enjoy the star studded lights of Ryback's podcast or something.
So he went the Randy Savage route over Carmella?

If so, yikes. It seems like Big Cass just has a really bad attitude: What with the bathroom story, him not wanting to listen to orders, the argument he had with Zayn and now this.

Yeah, this is all on Cass here. He could've been a contender, but instead he became the only member of Team SAWFT not to win any titles.

'Ravishing' Ned Flanders
06-22-2018, 10:38 PM
So from what i'm reading Cass was an asshole who's ego got to big.

Good on Vince with this one. Like him or not Vince is the boss and pissing him off is a bad idea.

smarkmouth
06-23-2018, 07:52 AM
Restraining someone walking away from you is more than an ego problem.

Fallout
06-23-2018, 08:49 AM
Jesus, this is bigger than I thought it would be. I actually didn't mind Cass, and think a lot of the hate he got was unjustified, but if he's going to be an asshole backstage, then good on WWE for dumping toxic waste.

If that story of him thinking he was locked in the toilet is true though, that's hilarious.

Wildcat66
06-23-2018, 09:31 AM
Restraining someone walking away from you is more than an ego problem.

He's got some mental and attitude issues if nothing else.

#AbsoluteUnit
06-23-2018, 03:02 PM
Wait, Cass got locked in a toilet? Please do tell.

smarkmouth
06-23-2018, 05:53 PM
Wait, Cass got locked in a toilet? Please do tell.

Got locked in the bus toilet and thought it was a prank, so he broke the door. Door was broken so nobody had privacy in that washroom, and WWE paid the bus company for damages.

All in all, it's kind of amazing that someone who should have realized he'd need to clean the stink of Enzo off of himself ended up being just about every bit of a problem that Enzo was.

#AbsoluteUnit
06-23-2018, 08:33 PM
That's hilarious. No lie. What an air head.

nightmare
06-25-2018, 08:28 PM
If he is smart he will stay away from Enzo and come back with his attitude in check.

He should go to Japan and get his ass kicked a bit, come back humble and ready to work. Vince will give him a spot again.

BestSportsEntertainer
06-28-2018, 06:03 PM
I wasn't the biggest fan, but I kinda feel for the guy.

I take this back. Cass deserved to be released. If that incident with Carmella really happened, then he has some big problems and needs to get help.