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smarkmouth
08-01-2018, 04:38 PM
Welcome to Season One of SCF’s Fantasy Pool League!
Thanks for participating in this experiment, I’m hoping we can have some fun with this. Season One will officially begin with a draft that starts on Sunday, August 5th through Sunday, August 19th. The scoreboard launches on August 20th (the RAW following SummerSlam) and will be live until November 18th (Survivor Series). Please read this rulebook carefully and let me know if you have any questions. Please do not send me a private message, as your question may be the same as someone else.

Goal & Scoring System
In keeping with traditional fantasy pool’s, the name of the game is building your teams and trying to accumulate as many points as possible in the coming months. Points will be awarded to individual superstars based on their matches on RAW, Smackdown, Mixed Match Challenge, pay-per-views (including pre-shows) and other Network specials. This excludes 205 Live, NXT, NXT TakeOver, WWE Main Event and house shows

Points will be awarded as follows

Singles Match Ups – Includes One on One, Triple Threat, Fatal Four Way, etc
Pinfall/Submission/KO Victory - 10 points
DQ/Count out Victory - 8 Points
Championship Win - 14 points (awarded to a NEW CHAMPION. Retaining champions awarded points as stated above)
Championship Loss - 10 points (awarded to the FORMER CHAMPION who has lost their title, not to a challenger who didn't win. They are awarded the points as listed below. Vis a vis, your champion is more or less guaranteed 10 points going into a title match)
Loss - 4 Points
Draw/Time Limit/Double DQ/Double Count Out – 4 Points

Tag Team Match Ups – Divide the points above in half. This includes traditional Two on Two, Triple Threat Tag Team Matches, Three on Three, Four on Four, etc.

TOURNAMENTS: Scoring system determined in a case by case basis decided on tournament size.

Scoring the King of the Ring Tournament: Every winner gets 2 points added on (12 instead of 10) and the Winner of the final match gets double the points (so 20) when they win & become King of the Ring.

Mixed Match Challenge Tournament
Winners: 14 points (7 points each, equivalent to a championship win)
Runner up: 10 points (5 points each, equivalent to a championship win)
All other tournament matches fall under standard Tag Team Match scoring system.


Battle Royals
Battle Royal of 10 Stars or Under
Win: 10 points
Loss: 4 points

Battle Royal of 11 Stars or Over
Win: 10 points
Final Four(Aside from Winner): 8
Loss: 4

Survivor Series matches
Victory/Surviving Members – 14 points each
Victory/Eliminated Members – 10 points each
Losing Team – 4 points each
BONUS - Wrestlers awarded 2 points for every elimination they are responsible for (Pinfall, submission, being attacked by a chair and causing a DQ, being the legal superstar while an opponent is counted out, etc)

Scoring the 24/7 Title: A title defense is achieved by pinfall/submission or evading someone who has tried to pin the champ. If no one goes for a pinfall and the champ just hides it doesn't count as a successful defense.

Winning the title counts the same as any other title.

Rosters
Every player will have a roster of Five Superstars. Your team must have at least two superstars from RAW and two superstars from Smackdown Live. Within those four, your roster must have at least one female superstar. You cannot have more than two female superstars. We are only drafting Individual Talents, so don’t show up in the Draft and try to claim “New Day” as one pick.

Your fifth superstar may be anyone from Raw or Smackdown, male or female, or from elsewhere in the WWE or elsewhere in the wrestling world. The talent pool includes select superstars who are not assigned to a specific brand such as John Cena, Triple H, Undertaker etc. The pool also includes NXT, NXT UK, the Cruiserweights, etc, but is not limited to the listed names, either. Are you expecting Cena back sometime soon? Do you want to gamble on a rumoured NXT call up? Think Kenny Omega is coming to WWE and heading straight to Smackdown? That’s your gamble, but keep in mind that points are only awarded in matches from the shows listed in the Goal & Scoring System section.

In the event of a superstar changing brands on television, the player who holds that superstar will have one week to resolve their roster and make sure that they meet the roster requirements. They can do so through trade with another player or with the Free Agent pool. Failure to do so will result in a 7-Point Penalty for every week that they don’t meet the roster requirements.

Draft

The Official Draft will begin on August 5th and hopefully is finished by August 20th. In that window, we ask players be as diligent as they can in checking the forums so not to miss their turn and ensure an expedient draft process.

You’ll all be assigned a number in the Draft thread. Draft order is top to bottom and then bottom to top, repeated until all players have filled their Five Superstar Rosters.

ie
First pick: Player 1
Second pick: Player 2
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.
.
Seventeenth pick: Player 17
Eighteenth pick: Player 18
Nineteenth pick: Player 18
Twentieth pick: Player 17
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.
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35th pick: Player 2
36th pick: Player 1
37th pick: Player 1
38th pick: Player 2
.
and so on.

When the player before you has made their pick, you have 24 hours to make your pick(s) before the next player gets to choose. You will not have another chance to draft a superstar until your next turn. The draft will continue for extra rounds for those who have missed spot(s).

You will not be policed by management during the draft itself, so YOU are responsible for making sure that you’re meeting the requirements listed in the Rosters section of this guide! Failure to do so will result in a 5 point penalty at draft’s end! Don’t start the game with -5 Points! Continued failure will be a 7 point penalty per week.

IN THE EVENT of an UNFINISHED DRAFT
If RAW on August 20th begins and we have any rounds left in the draft, the game will commence but with a temporary revision. If, for example, we have only completely finished the third round of drafting with some players already making their fourth round picks, then we will temporarily “suspend” those fourth round picks (they will still be officially drafted but won’t be gathering points), and everyone will be playing the first week(s) of the game with their first three round picks. If you are missing superstars due to you missing your draft, then you will be starting the game with less superstars than other players.

Rosters at the top of the Draft thread will be updated as quickly as possible as players make their picks. Try and keep an eye on the last few draft picks when consulting the pool.

Trades
A trade window will be open weekly Wednesday 12:00AM EST through Saturday 11:59PM EST. In said window, you can manage trades with other players or with the Free Agent pool. You may discuss and negotiate trades with other players (in the Trade Negotiation thread) outside of the window, but they can only be confirmed in the allotted time. The time will be determined by forum hours, so if your clock is a few seconds ahead then is your responsibility to ensure you are working within the proper trade window.

Trades between players with one another are agreed upon in the Confirmed Trades thread by both players replying to the thread within the allotted window. The trade is then validated by the Manager (me).
[i]ie;
Player One makes a “trade post” by posting
I trade my Seth Rollins to Player Two in exchange for AJ Styles
Player Two posts “confirmation” by quoting the tweet and saying
Agreed
@smarkmouth quotes both tweets and says
Confirmed

You may also trade 2/1 or more with other players, but you must resolve your roster to accommodate the requirements stated in the Rosters section of this guide. Failure to do so by the end of the trade window will result in a 7 point penalty.

Trading in Private, and Trades between 3 or More Players
Just because there's a thread for negotiating trades doesn't mean you can only negotiate in there. If you'd rather conspire, do so through PMs or however you choose.

You can also trade between three players, so long as the end language in the "Confirmed Trades" thread (incoming tonight) is clear. ie;

Player A "I trade my X to Player B and receive Y from Player C"
Player B" I trade my Z to Player C and receive X from Player A"
Player C "I trade my Y to Player A and receive Z from Player B"

If you really want to conspire, go ahead and PM me the above info within the trade window. If I don't receive messages from all participating traders, the trade falls through. If a participant is confused and I receive conflicting messages, the trade falls through, and it won't be my responsibility to sort it out.

Trades between players MAY BE REJECTED by management if foul play, such as one player unofficially quitting and deliberately inflating another player’s score is suspected. Please, be good sports. This is a game and it’s all in good fun. Please see the Controversy section of this guide for more.

Do Not Panic if management has not validated the trade by Saturday 11:59PM. If you handled your trade at the very last minute, I may only get to validating it the next morning or shortly thereafter. But the “trade post” and “confirmation” must be handled.

Trades between players and the Free Agent pool are also handled in the Confirmed Trades thread. Did someone from NXT made a shocking debut on RAW? Well, you’re waiting until Wednesday at 12EST to try and snatch them up. Trades with the free agent pool are completely first come first served within the trade window! Once again, make sure you’re working within forum time, and not your cell phone which seems to be working a few seconds ahead. If you pick up Aleister Black at 11:59 when someone else has him at 12:00, you ain’t getting him!

Controversy
I ask all players to keep in mind that we’re trying to apply a rigid scoring system on a fictional narrative, and sometimes judgement calls will have to be made. Events that we couldn’t have predicted are bound to happen in the world of WWE. Can you imagine the nightmare I would have had if I had to score the finish of Lesnar/Reigns with Seth’s MITB cash-in?! I ask players to offer their input in the event of such controversy, but also be patient with the growing pains of this game and respect decisions that are made. This is all in good fun, and if it isn’t, then I’ve let you down.

If it’s suspected that a player has unofficially quit the game and is deliberately inflating someone else’s scores through clearly unfair trading, management may step in and reject the trade. That being said, I don’t expect to have to do so.

I will be participating in the game, but I will manage this game with transparency. Ask me any questions and call me out if you suspect foul play.
All matters are up for discussion in the General Discussion thread. Bring up any topics or concerns you have there.

Rulebook Changelog

8/1 - Pay Per View Pre-Shows included in Scoring System, minor typos fixed.
8/2 - Restricted Maximum Female Superstars per Player to Two. If more than 4 players had 3 female superstars the female roster could deplete before other players met the original requirements.
8/12 - Points attributed to a loss reduced from 6 to 4. Tag team losses will therefore be 2 points.
8/21 - Trading in Private and Trading with 3 or More Players added.
8/28 - Battle Royal award system added, Survivor Series award system updated.
9/5 - Tournament award system added

8/13/19: scoring on the 24/7 Title and KotR tournament added

That being said, let’s have some fun

#AbsoluteUnit
08-01-2018, 05:28 PM
I like this. Only thing that's bothering me at the moment is that the rosters only having 5 people. Now, I'm not asking you to change it to more or less members but 5 seems odd. But that's ok, I'll live with it. What happens if a guy gets injured? Is there a free agency pool that people can dive into?

smarkmouth
08-01-2018, 05:54 PM
I like this. Only thing that's bothering me at the moment is that the rosters only having 5 people. Now, I'm not asking you to change it to more or less members but 5 seems odd.
I'm glad you brought this up. I went with 5 for two reasons;
1) If we filled up all 18 participants, that would account for 90 of the current approximate 101 active main roster superstars in WWE. This doesn't include 205 Live or NXT or "Specialty" stars like Cena, Undertaker etc.
2) More than 90 picks would be a hell of a long draft.


What happens if a guy gets injured? Is there a free agency pool that people can dive into?

Indeed. Whoever's left after the draft are free agents that can be picked up during any trade window. It seems a little shallow at 11 stars, but the above math doesn't account for NXT call-ups, RAW's occasional use of 205 Live stars or other events.

Yaz
08-01-2018, 07:25 PM
This is your baby, but did you consider awarding points for appearing in non wrestling roles? I ask because I have a feeling current champs will be in high demand, but aside from the one champ per cycle who seems to just exist to lose each week to set up their PPV challenger, champs haven't been wrestling on TV much lately.

Also, will guys like Ambrose who are currently out with injury be included?

Skairipa
08-01-2018, 08:09 PM
This just a suggestion, and might be hard to do because some would be subjective, but what about points for hitting a finisher?

Also I think Yaz has a solid idea, but I'm flexible and willing to roll with whatever.

smarkmouth
08-01-2018, 08:22 PM
This is your baby, but did you consider awarding points for appearing in non wrestling roles? I ask because I have a feeling current champs will be in high demand, but aside from the one champ per cycle who seems to just exist to lose each week to set up their PPV challenger, champs haven't been wrestling on TV much lately.

Also, will guys like Ambrose who are currently out with injury be included?

Hmm, I didn't really consider that to be honest, but it has merit. Let me stew on that overnight.

Injured stars are absolutely draftable. You'll find them available in the draft thread listed under the last brand they appeared on.


This just a suggestion, and might be hard to do because some would be subjective, but what about points for hitting a finisher?

I'd love to do this, but as often as I watch wrestling, there will be some nights in which I calculate points based off of KB's reviews and results and won't be tallying entire match breakdowns. For this season, we'll keep it simple.

Storm Trooper
08-02-2018, 07:54 AM
Is there any chance of including the 205 Live show? I only ask because I have a feeling the approx. 101 person Roster Pool you mentioned includes the people out with major injuries (ie Fandango who is out til 2019), meaning we may see people drafting guys they won't be able to use, or at least the Free Agent pool will be incredibly marginalized. NXT/NXTUK obviously doesn't really make sense to add, since it's completely it's own entity, but 205 Live is a main roster show that has PPV matches (at least kickoff matches). Even if we don't do it now, can we consider it for a potential future season.


Also, will PPV matches have a higher scoring than TV matches due to the higher profile of PPV matches?

smarkmouth
08-02-2018, 08:33 AM
Is there any chance of including the 205 Live show? I only ask because I have a feeling the approx. 101 person Roster Pool you mentioned includes the people out with major injuries (ie Fandango who is out til 2019), meaning we may see people drafting guys they won't be able to use, or at least the Free Agent pool will be incredibly marginalized. NXT/NXTUK obviously doesn't really make sense to add, since it's completely it's own entity, but 205 Live is a main roster show that has PPV matches (at least kickoff matches). Even if we don't do it now, can we consider it for a potential future season.


Also, will PPV matches have a higher scoring than TV matches due to the higher profile of PPV matches?

I had the same concerns about the roster depth when I revisited the math. As a result, we're limiting the game to 14 players max (probably working at 12) which leaves a free agent pool of about 35. I suspect that will be deep enough, but as much as injuries suck, they're part of the game.

Yeah, we won't do 205 this season but it is something I'd love to do if we have the opportunity to do a more ambitious season later on. Their PPV matches will absolutely count for points, so I suspect players will try to trade.

Pay Per Views are generally championship-heavy, so there will already be ample opportunity to score more points during special events. No additional points for showing up on PPV this season at least.

Stone Cold Tea
08-02-2018, 02:04 PM
Where do I sign up?

OYDK
08-02-2018, 02:56 PM
Everything looks good man, props to you for this. Just wondering if in the future you might think about awarding more points for PPV victories as opposed to victories on Raw/Smackdown. Might give people more incentive to pick up the wrestlers that rarely wrestle on TV anymore.

Edit: Didn't see the comment above. Makes sense.

smarkmouth
08-02-2018, 03:00 PM
Everything looks good man, props to you for this. Just wondering if in the future you might think about awarding more points for PPV victories as opposed to victories on Raw/Smackdown. Might give people more incentive to pick up the wrestlers that rarely wrestle on TV anymore.

Thank you for your kind words! I see where you and Storm Trooper are coming from regarding PPV incentives, but I do believe that the trade windows closest to respective PPVs will be strategically intriguing for this very reason. We'll stick to what we got this season, but I'll be open to considering it for next, should we be able to do so.

smarkmouth
08-02-2018, 03:10 PM
This is your baby, but did you consider awarding points for appearing in non wrestling roles? I ask because I have a feeling current champs will be in high demand, but aside from the one champ per cycle who seems to just exist to lose each week to set up their PPV challenger, champs haven't been wrestling on TV much lately.
Back to this; I like it, but To keep things simple for the inaugural season I'm going to omit it. In part, I worry about not paying enough attention to promos and missing someone's key appearance. Wins and losses are going to be much easier to track even if I miss an entire episode.

Yaz
08-03-2018, 02:49 AM
Back to this; I like it, but To keep things simple for the inaugural season I'm going to omit it. In part, I worry about not paying enough attention to promos and missing someone's key appearance. Wins and losses are going to be much easier to track even if I miss an entire episode.

Makes total sense. I can't recall the last time I was able to catch an entire non PPV, and I keep up with results based off KB's reviews as well so no gripe here at all.

smarkmouth
08-03-2018, 11:00 PM
Closing rulebook thread. Drop your objections and questions over in the GD.