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smarkmouth
11-18-2018, 04:41 PM
I gotta say, this tag team survivor series alone is topping NXT War Games.

No seriously it's not. But as fantasy pool manager I'm glad nobody has Lucha House Party Members in their rosters

klunderbunker
11-18-2018, 04:45 PM
So Bayley and Banks are in for Natalya and Riott.

You know, when I said in the preview that they'll probably change the teams again before the show started, I WAS KIDDING!

smarkmouth
11-18-2018, 04:54 PM
So Bayley and Banks are in for Natalya and Riott.

You know, when I said in the preview that they'll probably change the teams again before the show started, I WAS KIDDING!

I missed this. Why did this happen?

BaconBits
11-18-2018, 04:55 PM
Oh hey, it’s the yearly dick stretching contest.

Awesome_Miz
11-18-2018, 05:00 PM
You know with all eyes on the Raw team and its issues makes me go with Smackdown winning now.

Also I have one big prediction ever since the Bryan turn on Smackdown, I see Miz turning face in tonight’s match. Leading all the way to Mania with Heel Bryan vs Face Miz. Who knows???

klunderbunker
11-18-2018, 05:01 PM
I missed this. Why did this happen?

Apparently being Natalya and Riott keep fighting.

#AbsoluteUnit
11-18-2018, 05:04 PM
Lesnar better squash bryan.

Awesome_Miz
11-18-2018, 05:05 PM
The biggest question of the night is..... How many dance breaks do we get tonight???

BaconBits
11-18-2018, 05:06 PM
Lesnar better squash bryan.

I still think making the change to DB was absurd.

Yer Maw
11-18-2018, 05:06 PM
I would crawl a mile over broken glass to be with Mandy Rose.

klunderbunker
11-18-2018, 05:10 PM
I would crawl a mile over broken glass to be with Mandy Rose.

Alexa/Mickie > Mandy.

BaconBits
11-18-2018, 05:11 PM
Asuka stealing Brock Lesnar’s taunt.

BaconBits
11-18-2018, 05:12 PM
Alexa/Mickie > Mandy.

Yeah, Alexa in this quasi-office getup is absurdly hot.

klunderbunker
11-18-2018, 05:13 PM
Yeah, Alexa in this quasi-office getup is absurdly hot.

She is. The hair up thing has always been a major plus for me.

Skairipa
11-18-2018, 05:13 PM
Uhh what the fuck. Naomi gone already?

Awesome_Miz
11-18-2018, 05:13 PM
OMG! Thank you Carmella for that elimination.

#AbsoluteUnit
11-18-2018, 05:14 PM
It's all about Rhea Ridley for me.

klunderbunker
11-18-2018, 05:14 PM
Thank goodness. Stay out you old waste of a roster spot.

Skairipa
11-18-2018, 05:14 PM
Nia is officially the biggest heel in the women's division now.

klunderbunker
11-18-2018, 05:15 PM
It's all about Rhea Ridley for me.

Not bad at all.

Black Anaconda Vise
11-18-2018, 05:15 PM
Been a while.

Looking forward to the show, card looks fun

#AbsoluteUnit
11-18-2018, 05:16 PM
Not bad at all.

I do have great taste.

Skairipa
11-18-2018, 05:17 PM
Cole doesn't watch NXT if he thinks Asuka vs Mickie never happened.

klunderbunker
11-18-2018, 05:19 PM
Cole doesn't watch NXT if he thinks Asuka vs Mickie never happened.

But now it's Raw vs. Smackdown! Which only happens like five times a year!

Yer Maw
11-18-2018, 05:20 PM
Cole doesn't watch NXT if he thinks Asuka vs Mickie never happened.

Vince doesn't even watch it never mind Cole.

#AbsoluteUnit
11-18-2018, 05:24 PM
Vince doesn't even watch it never mind Cole.

If true, this doesn't surprise me at all.

Yer Maw
11-18-2018, 05:26 PM
These Nia crowd reactions are hilarious.

Black Anaconda Vise
11-18-2018, 05:28 PM
Sasha â??Ibushiâ? Banks

Skairipa
11-18-2018, 05:33 PM
Sure let's reward Nia for being unsafe and injuring the hottest act in the company, this is gonna be a long night if the whole goal is just to piss everyone off.

DNA 2.0
11-18-2018, 05:33 PM
My gut tells me that RAW will win every match

Yer Maw
11-18-2018, 05:34 PM
Anyone see the guy in the crowd doing the double middle finger to Nia before the camera quickly moved on hahaha 😂

Awesome_Miz
11-18-2018, 05:34 PM
On one hand they have a super heel in Nia, but on the other hand it’s Nia Jax. And they are for wrong reasons due to her recklessness with people’s health.

klunderbunker
11-18-2018, 05:34 PM
Stephanie is crazy annoying....but dang if she can't rock the heck out of a Raw shirt and jeans.

Black Anaconda Vise
11-18-2018, 05:36 PM
This really shouldnâ??t surprise anyone. Sucks balls, but itâ??s no surprise WWE is using Nia concussing Becky as heat

DNA 2.0
11-18-2018, 05:37 PM
Lol at Sheamus

DNA 2.0
11-18-2018, 05:37 PM
I won't lie. This card intrigued me so much that I decided to give them 10 bucks for it

Awesome_Miz
11-18-2018, 05:38 PM
Is anyone else happy they’re not using a 5 people commentary team.

Yer Maw
11-18-2018, 05:39 PM
Stephanie is crazy annoying....but dang if she can't rock the heck out of a Raw shirt and jeans.

That may be the nicest thing you've ever said about her.

Skairipa
11-18-2018, 05:39 PM
Can Ruby injure someone so she can get a push too?

Black Anaconda Vise
11-18-2018, 05:42 PM
On a more positive note, the Asuka/Banks stuff was pretty good and I wouldnâ??t mind seeing them get a 1v1 match on PPV

klunderbunker
11-18-2018, 05:43 PM
That may be the nicest thing you've ever said about her.

Oh she's gorgeous. Just really, really annoying. I've never said she didn't look great every single time she's out there.

#AbsoluteUnit
11-18-2018, 05:44 PM
Nakamura still does nothing for me.

BaconBits
11-18-2018, 05:53 PM
This match is awkward.

klunderbunker
11-18-2018, 06:02 PM
This match is awkward.

Well it's out of continuity so it doesn't matter.

Skairipa
11-18-2018, 06:03 PM
Well guess Raw is winning everything, lame.

Yer Maw
11-18-2018, 06:05 PM
WWE stands for this is awesome. Good to know.

klunderbunker
11-18-2018, 06:06 PM
If this stupid competition goes to a tie, my head is going to explode.

supermatto64
11-18-2018, 06:08 PM
2-0?
Oh right, preshow doesn't count

Wildcat66
11-18-2018, 06:08 PM
Hi Truth, how's it hanging?

Skairipa
11-18-2018, 06:09 PM
Braun throwing Lio Rush at Corbin is the highlight of the might so far.

Black Anaconda Vise
11-18-2018, 06:09 PM
Time for a mean guy match

supermatto64
11-18-2018, 06:09 PM
"Hell I don't even know who you are" lmao

#AbsoluteUnit
11-18-2018, 06:10 PM
Drew will win the World Title before Braun, no?

Wildcat66
11-18-2018, 06:13 PM
Now this is a match i'm hoping is a brawl.

supermatto64
11-18-2018, 06:14 PM
Raw winning 3 in a row would irritate me but I wanna see AOP win at the same time.

BaconBits
11-18-2018, 06:16 PM
Four big dudes beating the fuck out of each other is the essence of professional wrestling.

Wildcat66
11-18-2018, 06:18 PM
AOP looking fantastic in the early going. They're holding up their own against veterans in Sheamus and Cesaro. Do I think they'll win? Probably not, but this is a good sign for their futures I think.

Yer Maw
11-18-2018, 06:19 PM
Was the Enzo Amore in the crowd?

Yer Maw
11-18-2018, 06:21 PM
He just peed himself!!!

Skairipa
11-18-2018, 06:22 PM
Happy AOP won, annoyed Raw is up 3-0.

Also fuck off Vince with Drake Maverick peeing himself.

Black Anaconda Vise
11-18-2018, 06:22 PM
AOP win via Drake Maverick pissing himself

#AbsoluteUnit
11-18-2018, 06:22 PM
This seems legit.

BaconBits
11-18-2018, 06:23 PM
That was hilarious.

Wildcat66
11-18-2018, 06:23 PM
I stand corrected.

Good match between the two, AOP getting the biggest win of their career thus far and The Bar don't lose much because of the distraction Drake tried to pull.

Also: Enzo is an idiot and a disgrace to professional wrestling.

Awesome_Miz
11-18-2018, 06:23 PM
Are you not sports entertained with the pee joke. L.O.L.

Wildcat66
11-18-2018, 06:25 PM
Why do I get the feeling Drake wet himself for real?

supermatto64
11-18-2018, 06:26 PM
Oh, it's definitely ending in a tie now.
Fuck

Black Anaconda Vise
11-18-2018, 06:26 PM
Was the Enzo Amore in the crowd?Yeah but he got kicked out lol

supermatto64
11-18-2018, 06:33 PM
Alright cruiserweights, steal the show

#AbsoluteUnit
11-18-2018, 06:41 PM
That reverse hurricanara looked dope.

Awesome_Miz
11-18-2018, 06:46 PM
Buddy Murphy has come a long way since his tag days in NXT. He has truly stepped up. However, this should have been Ali’s night.

BaconBits
11-18-2018, 06:49 PM
Lars Sullivan is getting a callup? Interesting.

Yer Maw
11-18-2018, 06:54 PM
Is Rousey/Charlotte main eventing?

supermatto64
11-18-2018, 06:56 PM
Sullivan/McIntyre
Sullivan/Strowman
Sullivan/Lashley
I need hoss fights, so put Lars on Raw please.

DNA 2.0
11-18-2018, 06:59 PM
Lol

DNA 2.0
11-18-2018, 07:00 PM
So we get Shane wrestling and Joe goes out in 1 minute

Yer Maw
11-18-2018, 07:00 PM
Somebody backstage really hates Samoa Joe

Skairipa
11-18-2018, 07:00 PM
Joe out 1st, why?

Awesome_Miz
11-18-2018, 07:03 PM
Out of everyone I imagined Dolph would have been our first.

Awesome_Miz
11-18-2018, 07:07 PM
You know what would be appropriate? The Best In The World being the sole survivor.

#AbsoluteUnit
11-18-2018, 07:08 PM
You know what would be appropriate? The Best In The World being the sole survivor.

You're on to something kid!

Awesome_Miz
11-18-2018, 07:21 PM
OMG I was just kidding!!!

DNA 2.0
11-18-2018, 07:21 PM
Haha this shit never changes. Shane once again is the last one remaining

Yer Maw
11-18-2018, 07:21 PM
Why does Shane wrestle so much?

Awesome_Miz
11-18-2018, 07:22 PM
Oh thank god I thought they were actually going to do it.

DNA 2.0
11-18-2018, 07:22 PM
I think I will end up being true. RAW will win everything

Skairipa
11-18-2018, 07:23 PM
This show sucks so bad.

Skairipa
11-18-2018, 07:27 PM
So what's the point of these last 2 matches? Smackdown can't even tie anymore and the whole theme of the night is brand supremacy.

Wildcat66
11-18-2018, 07:29 PM
This show sucks so bad.

Eh, I wouldn't go that far.

Nakamura vs. Rollins seems to have delivered,

The cruiserweight title match was great,

And the men's Survivor Series match was pretty strong.

I'd say overall there's more good than bad. Add in the fact that the last two matches have the potential to be excellent and I think this will still be a relatively good show.

Awesome_Miz
11-18-2018, 07:30 PM
AJ holds the WWE Title for a year but can’t main event a PPV with it. So he loses it and it immediately main events a PPV and it’s not even being defended. Hahahahaha

DNA 2.0
11-18-2018, 07:32 PM
Looks like they moved Charlotte vs Ronda here so that we can get Ronda vs Stephanie at Wrestlemania.

Yer Maw
11-18-2018, 07:34 PM
Her makeup is a mess

Wildcat66
11-18-2018, 07:36 PM
Ronda, you're great and all...but lose the eye makeup. It's not doing you any favors.

Skairipa
11-18-2018, 07:45 PM
I don't know what it is but this match just feels weird. I think it's the pacing.

Yer Maw
11-18-2018, 07:52 PM
I thought that was a good match.

Skairipa
11-18-2018, 07:54 PM
I didn't see that coming.

DNA 2.0
11-18-2018, 07:54 PM
Something's terrible wrong with Smackdown, everyone's turning heel around there

BaconBits
11-18-2018, 07:54 PM
No Baszler out to beat that ass?

Weak as fuck.

smarkmouth
11-18-2018, 07:56 PM
She did it for The Man.

DNA 2.0
11-18-2018, 07:56 PM
I really liked how WCW kept ringing the bell when a screw finish was taking place. It added more to the drama. I think NJPW does it as well

DNA 2.0
11-18-2018, 07:57 PM
I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of a kendo stick

supermatto64
11-18-2018, 07:57 PM
Thank you Charlotte.
Totally agree on that continuous bell ringing, DNA. Wish they'd do it here.

Skairipa
11-18-2018, 07:58 PM
I think Ronda is gonna have to make a call to some friends in NXT to help her out...

Yer Maw
11-18-2018, 08:02 PM
Looking forward to watching the AJ 365. The Owens one was great.

smarkmouth
11-18-2018, 08:02 PM
I think Ronda is gonna have to make a call to some friends in NXT to help her out...

But before that, Bayley and Banks need to get their hands on her.

Skairipa
11-18-2018, 08:05 PM
But before that, Bayley and Banks need to get their hands on her.

Plenty of time for that to happen before Wrestlemania where I'm guessing the match happens.

Yer Maw
11-18-2018, 08:10 PM
This is going to be a massacre. Or like the Punk match.

Awesome_Miz
11-18-2018, 08:10 PM
I wonder which Brock is going to show up tonight?

Awesome_Miz
11-18-2018, 08:12 PM
Does anyone know what the Raw vs Smackdown scoreboard is? They haven’t mention it in like a long time. Surprised.

DNA 2.0
11-18-2018, 08:14 PM
Look how Brock moves his lips every time Heyman introduces him. He really loves his hype

Black Anaconda Vise
11-18-2018, 08:19 PM
This is not fun to watch

supermatto64
11-18-2018, 08:19 PM
SU-PLEX CI-TY
lmao

BaconBits
11-18-2018, 08:20 PM
Brock doing the belly to bellies instead of Germans is their way of protecting Bryan’s head and neck. That’s pretty cool.

Wildcat66
11-18-2018, 08:22 PM
This is one of the most painful matches I've ever seen in WWE.

End this before Bryan gets seriously hurt or worse.

Awesome_Miz
11-18-2018, 08:25 PM
They actually made me believe it was all over.

Black Anaconda Vise
11-18-2018, 08:25 PM
Bryan mustâ??ve consulted with â??Taker before this match

supermatto64
11-18-2018, 08:26 PM
These lines from Brock are great

DNA 2.0
11-18-2018, 08:27 PM
So Bryan has turned into something like an Ultimate Opportunist. A guy that will do anything to win. Not afraid of anything

supermatto64
11-18-2018, 08:28 PM
So Bryan has turned into something like an Ultimate Opportunist. A guy that will do anything to win. Not afraid of anything

You think you know him

Black Anaconda Vise
11-18-2018, 08:31 PM
Bryan working like its Japan and heâ??s facing Ishii or something lmao

Wildcat66
11-18-2018, 08:32 PM
That...

was one of the greatest matches I have ever seen.

DNA 2.0
11-18-2018, 08:33 PM
Lol did they wrestle the same match like AJ vs Brock?

DNA 2.0
11-18-2018, 08:34 PM
Did anyone notice the foot mark on Lesnar's cheek? Outch

Yer Maw
11-18-2018, 08:34 PM
That...

was one of the greatest matches I have ever seen.

Really?

Skairipa
11-18-2018, 08:34 PM
Probably the best match Brock has had in years, but still the same old shit with Lesnar always winning. This show was a mess. Once again NXT absolutely destroys the main roster when they share a weekend.

Wildcat66
11-18-2018, 08:36 PM
Really?

It's up there, i'll say that.

Yer Maw
11-18-2018, 08:38 PM
It's up there, i'll say that.

How long have you been watching? 6 months? It was good that's it.

Brock v AJ was better

Wildcat66
11-18-2018, 08:41 PM
How long have you been watching? 6 months? It was good that's it.

Brock v AJ was better

Six years actually. Favorite match was Sami Zayn vs. Neville in 2014. Favorite wrestlers right now are Daniel Bryan, Becky Lynch, Ronda Rousey, Roman Reigns, Sami Zayn, The New Day and Aleister Black.

klunderbunker
11-18-2018, 08:49 PM
Survivor Series 2018
Date: November 18, 2018
Location: Staples Center, Los Angeles, California
Commentators: Michael Cole, Renee Young, Corey Graves, Byron Saxton, Tom Phillips

We’re finally here after what felt like the longest, most eventful two week build I’ve ever seen. The theme of the night is Raw vs. Smackdown and that likely means a lot of bantering between the commentators about the scoreboard and brand supremacy, which is all that matters around here. Let’s get to it.

Click on the link below for the full review.

Layeth The Smackdown Down (http://kbwrestlingreviews.com/2018/11/18/survivor-series-2018-layeth-the-smackdown-down/)

smarkmouth
11-18-2018, 08:51 PM
Hey all, just a reminder that opinions are just that. We all enjoy wrestling and your own opinion doesn't dwarf someone else's opinion. Glad people enjoyed the show! I know I did.

BestSportsEntertainer
11-18-2018, 08:55 PM
This was a pretty good show. I didn't agree with some of the booking choices, but they were mostly fine. I'd give it a B or B+.

DNA 2.0
11-18-2018, 08:57 PM
I liked this show as well. The wrestling in WWE today is great. It just can't not deliver, unless creative screws up so much.

Wildcat66
11-18-2018, 09:04 PM
It was a fun show and i'm glad I got to watch it. Not the best show of the year, but it was still a lot of fun and there was several really good matches.

That said, I've got no problem if you thought the show wasn't great or was bad. Your opinion is your opinion after all. That's the joy of life really, we're all allowed to have our own opinions on everything.

Jack-Hammer
11-18-2018, 09:27 PM
All in all, Survivor Series exceeded my expectations.

The brand rivalry big doesn't mean a damn thing and I really hope WWE gets out of that mind set for this show next year since SmackDown was completely shut out, with the exception of the kickoff show match but the announcers all but came right out and said that it didn't count. That's not exactly the way to sell a show you're building around a brand rivalry.

The women's Survivor Series tag team match was a fun 3.25 star outing and I'm even okay with Nia Jax winning. I'm soooooo glad to see WWE embracing the whole #Facebreaker bit and with Nia actually egging the crowd on. I mean, it's just nice to see Nia actually show some personality and that can go a helluva long way towards making up for her in-ring shortcomings.

Seth Rollins vs. Shinsuke Nakamura, for me, was a very fun 3.75 star bout. They were given a lot of time, it was a helluva back and forth effort and we saw a clean ending without Dean Ambrose being anywhere in sight. Just imagine how good this match would've been had there been an actual build with a story to go along with it aside from the brand rivalry nonsense that absolutely nobody is buying into.

The Bar vs. the Authors of Pain was a pretty lame, paint by the numbers 2 to 2.25 star house show match instead of the physical hoss fight I was hoping for and expecting.

Buddy Murphy vs. Mustafa Ali for the WWE Cruiserweight Championship was an outstanding 4.25 star effort from these two. It's really the only match on the card that had an actual build and story to justify having it and they had the crowd eating out of the palm of their hands by the middle of the match. Fans started to respond steadily as the match went on, they were mostly quiet for the first few minutes, but they were lout "205" and "this is awesome" chants about halfway through it. Both men looked like stars out there.

The men's Survivor Series tag team match, I gave 3.25 stars. It was infinitely better than last year's debacle and there was such chaos on the Raw team that I had little trouble believing they might come out on the losing end here. This match still could've been so much better, in my view, without Shane as he basically has two moves: coast to coast and the elbow through the table and both of which pretty much has him selling like he's got one foot in the grave with the other slipping. Shane's almost 50 years old and it doesn't get any less ridiculous to see him in there trying to beat up men 15+ years younger than he is. With all that said, everyone did work hard and Drew McIntyre came off like a complete psycho and Strowman was the monster everyone was expecting. It could've been better, but it was good overall.

Ronda Rousey vs. Charlotte Flair was pretty friggin' incredible and Rousey continues to look better and better with each real match she's able to get. This was a killer 4.5 star back and forth match in which they just beat the ever lovin' shit out of each other. I don't mind the DQ ending here as Charlotte looked like a damn psychotic out there just beating Rousey all over the place with chairs and kendo sticks.

Brock Lesnar vs. Daniel Bryan was also about 4.5 stars for me and was a rollercoaster. They followed a similar formula to Lesnar's match with Styles last year but Bryan took even more of a beating. Seeing him take all those suplexes made me cringe, especially seeing that blank expression in his eyes that made me think he had a concussion. Hell, he still might for all I know. There were some great near falls from Bryan once he got things going in his favor and it was nice to see Lesnar work an actual, lengthy 1 on 1 match for a change in which he's selling the offense of his opponent like crazy. I didn't really expect Bryan to win but there were a few points in the match where it looked that he just might and the crowd came alive once they saw that this wasn't just going to be a complete decimation that it looked like it was going to be for the first little bit.

WWE has made several really good ppvs this year, including this one, in which the wrestling ranges from good to outstanding the TV product, primarily for Raw, has been the worst of this decade, in my opinion. Survivor Series was a very fun B+ show that could've been even better had there been some actual real storylines and build to the matches instead of the brand rivalry foolishness. Becky Lynch being out was unfortunate but Charlotte was able to deliver a very high quality match with Rousey. The Survivor Series tag team matches were ultimately pretty good, the CW Championship match was a very high quality effort as was Lesnar vs. Bryan. All in all, the show went by at a quick pace and it did something that a lot of main roster ppvs haven't done this year: leave me wanting more instead of just being fatigued and grateful the show's over.

Yer Maw
11-19-2018, 07:53 AM
Rousey/Charlotte was good and all, but it had nothing on Melina v Alicia Fox.