Raw LD - June 10, 2019

[klunderbunker]

You know what might help Raw? Not opening with a fifteen minute promo segment.

[#AbsoluteUnit]

That was not compelling at all

[klunderbunker]

So, in other words, they DO know how to do this and decided that Friday was a better idea.

[#AbsoluteUnit]

WWE couldn't have found 3 jobbers out there instead of the Lucha House Party? Typical.

[BestSportsEntertainer]

Thought about no longer watching Raw and did for a couple of weeks, but I can't. I'll always be a WWE fan first, even if I don't love the current product.

[klunderbunker]

Why wrestle when you can talk about wrestling?

[#AbsoluteUnit]

This is riveting stuff.

[BestSportsEntertainer]

What happened to actual wrestling?

[#AbsoluteUnit]

We need more talking of course.

[klunderbunker]

And now, another talking segment.

You know, because a three minute squash is just out of the question.

[BestSportsEntertainer]

I hate how they just gave the belt to Joe.

[#AbsoluteUnit]

He'll probably lose it by Extreme Rules, no?

[klunderbunker]

If only there had been a trilogy of matches between two talented guys like Cesaro and Ricochet where the winner could have been champion or the winner could face Joe for the title.

[BestSportsEntertainer]

Lashley is nothing without Lio Rush.

[#AbsoluteUnit]

Don't think too hard KB.

[BestSportsEntertainer]

No way this could be a 6 man tag.

[klunderbunker]

Wins and losses anyone?

[#AbsoluteUnit]

That was more entertaining than what Corbin has done in 2019.

[BestSportsEntertainer]

"It's a wrestling match! Go to commercical!"

[#AbsoluteUnit]

Odd, Miz is the only former world champ in this match. Nothing wrong with that. Just an observation.

[BestSportsEntertainer]

Odd, Miz is the only former world champ in this match. Nothing wrong with that. Just an observation.

It's going to be a shame if Joe never wins the world title. He should be the #1 heel on Raw.

[#AbsoluteUnit]

I'm cool with that.

[BestSportsEntertainer]

https://twitter.com/WWECreative_ish/status/1138249812577591297

[#AbsoluteUnit]

Truth.

[#AbsoluteUnit]

Ricochet should never turn heel. Ever.

[klunderbunker]

You know, I had been thinking that this week was a bit better than the previous ones as they didn't have the big stupid moment. Then hometown girl Bayley gets pinned.

[BestSportsEntertainer]

Champions lose in their hometown. Because fuck you.

[#AbsoluteUnit]

That was bullshit.


Sami: "You know Seth and Roman are really close"..... WWE Creative for you folks!

[Jeff Deliverer of Mail]

Oh for crying out loud, let Fast and Furious die already.

[klunderbunker]

Champions lose in their hometown. Because fuck you.

Yep. No other options whatsoever. Not a countout, a DQ, a no contest, or ANYTHING other than that. They had to do that match with that finish on this show. Because WWE is infalliable and cannot be questioned.

[klunderbunker]

And can Lesnar and Heyman fall in a hole already?

[#AbsoluteUnit]

I would not mind that.

[BestSportsEntertainer]

Firefly Fun House and the 24/7 Championship are the best things about WWE.

[klunderbunker]

Firefly Fun House and the 24/7 Championship are the best things about WWE.

And I wonder who writes those segments.

[Jeff Deliverer of Mail]

Best in the world.

[BestSportsEntertainer]

Regarding the tagline of Stomping Grounds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUbO11F39Rw

[klunderbunker]

This show has died since Bayley lost.

[#AbsoluteUnit]

Shane and Drew make me want to see this continue. Wait, didn't Roman beat Drew at Mania?

[BestSportsEntertainer]

Both are horrible, but Shane is worse than Corbin.

[#AbsoluteUnit]

Drew looking like a low-key discount Steven Seagal

[klunderbunker]

Shane and Drew make me want to see this continue. Wait, didn't Roman beat Drew at Mania?

Yep, but Wrestlemania now means nothing.

[BestSportsEntertainer]

Yep, but Wrestlemania now means nothing.

Of course not. It's on the same level as the Saudi shows.

[#AbsoluteUnit]

Don't worry about the NBA Finals, this segment will bring viewers in!

[BestSportsEntertainer]

Wins and losses mean nothing in WWE, so this is just beating a dead horse but...

The Viking Raiders beat Hawkins and Ryder in under 3 minutes a month ago while The Revival lost on last Friday's PPV.

Guess who's getting a title shot tonight?

[#AbsoluteUnit]

^ preach.

[klunderbunker]

Well. That look works for Charly.

[klunderbunker]

Wins and losses mean nothing in WWE, so this is just beating a dead horse but...

The Viking Raiders beat Hawkins and Ryder in under 3 minutes a month ago while The Revival lost on last Friday's PPV.

Guess who's getting a title shot tonight?

Super ShowDown was their first match since then.

[#AbsoluteUnit]

Well. That look works for Charly.

My man!

[klunderbunker]

My man!

She's very underrated. Her Instagram is rather uh.....yeah you get the idea.

[#AbsoluteUnit]

She's very underrated. Her Instagram is rather uh.....yeah you get the idea.

We've discussed this before sir. You have great taste.

[Jeff Deliverer of Mail]

Good for The Revival.

[Jeff Deliverer of Mail]

Shane told them to bring gold, those belts don't have any gold on them.

[klunderbunker]

We've discussed this before sir. You have great taste.

*looks at my wife*

Yep.

[klunderbunker]

Shane told them to bring gold, those belts don't have any gold on them.

Totally stealing that.

[#AbsoluteUnit]

Decent match.

[#AbsoluteUnit]

More Charly = ratings

[klunderbunker]

My rabbit just hopped away in terror.

[Jeff Deliverer of Mail]

R Truth really should hang out there to stay safe.

[#AbsoluteUnit]

Put Charly back on

[Jeff Deliverer of Mail]

K.O looks a little scarier with a shaggy beard.

[#AbsoluteUnit]

Zayn > Owens and it's not even close at all

[Jeff Deliverer of Mail]

Baron Corbin headlining Stomping Grounds. I'm writing a letter.

[klunderbunker]

Monday Night Raw
Date: June 10, 2019
Location: SAP Center, San Jose, California
Commentators: Michael Cole, Corey Graves, Renee Young

They really have to go to California three days after an international trip? Anyway, it’s time to start the short road to Stomping Grounds as we’re finally past Super ShowDown. What’s up next? Well that would be a bunch of Super ShowDown rematches as WWE probably thinks you didn’t watch the show and NEED to see their brilliant ideas at work. It’s turned into a bit of a game to see how bad Raw can get these days so maybe we can hit a new low score. Let’s get to it.

Click on the link below for the full review.

The Other Side Of The Problem (http://kbwrestlingreviews.com/2019/06/10/monday-night-raw-june-10-2019-the-other-side-of-the-problem/)

[Jack-Hammer]

You know, I have to say that I actually enjoyed most of Raw last night. If you took out all the stuff with Shane McMahon and the IIconics, then I think it would've been an outright great show. I think a good chunk of it has to do with the fact that we saw the best wrestling on Raw we've seen in a while, Baron Corbin wasn't all over the show and neither was Shane, for that matter.

It was far from perfect, don't get me wrong, but I will say that I'm excited about the United States Championship picture for the first tine in probably close to 2 years and the six man tag match was fun. Baron Corbin should've been in this match or working as part of a hoss tag team or something as they're spots much more suited to his abilities.

The women's tag match wasn't great, but Lacey Evans wound up looking stronger within the last minute or so of this match than she has at any time on the main roster. This match was dragged down by the fact they were in San Jose, which is Bayley's hometown, so you knew the faces were going to lose. I was worried that Alexa Bliss being in this match might upstage Evans but that didn't happen and that's definitely the right call. Evans is the title challenger right now wile Alexa, as hot and charismatic as she is, has mostly been sitting on the shelf since late last year so the worst thing they could've done was to have her coming out looking like she's the one being pushed instead of Evans.

The tag title match was fun and energetic overall. The ending was exactly how it should've been but I don't have a lot of optimism. The only reason for the Revival getting back on top MIGHT be connecting them with the Shane McMahon storyline, and the tag team division still needs a lot of work. Again, one of WWE's biggest problems, especially right now, is they're putting such focus on people like Shane and Baron Corbin; Shane's a 50 year old man-child that's getting X-Pac go away heat while Corbin is a glorified mid-carder, at best, in a spot much too big for him.

The celebration just sucked the energy out of the place. I didn't even listen to most of it, no reason to as it's the same segment we've seen a thousand times before with different players. To make matters worse was the fact that Drew McIntyre, this stud who has everything any wrestler could ask for and should be busy challenging for World Championships has been reduced to being Shane McMahon's heavy. Instead of being the badass he was originally portraying, he's basically now a little lackey sucking up to the corporate executives which is, again, something we've seen a thousand times before.

The main event was solid with Zayn playing his role as this annoying mosquito heel well. The ending was telegraphed a mile away and almost anyone is still preferable to Baron Corbin being in this spot. I don't want it to happen, I especially don't want it to happen anytime soon, but the fact of the matter is that Baron Corbin is all but guaranteed to become a World Champion in WWE at some point. It's coming, hardly any of us likes it, but it's coming all the same.

Most of the promo work was solid all in all, the IIconics are about as awful on the mic as they are in the ring, but everything else did its job more or less. I thought last night's show was a C+, not exactly stellar but I thought it was better than what we've gotten out of Raw in quite a spell.

[BestSportsEntertainer]

I want to support and like WWE, but they makes it so difficult.

[Jack-Hammer]

A thought occurred to me today that in regards to the six man tag on last night's Raw. Six months ago, these guys would've all been running around with nothing to strive for. I mean, there was no consistent main event title scene 6 months ago, yet there was a mid-card title that could've used a lot of attention. Now that we have a consistent main event title scene, for now at least, Vince has decided to have all these guys in the Raw mid-card title picture. It would've been such a good use of top talent and been much more impactful 6 months ago to have them all battling over the Raw mid-card title, instead of just doing nothing, as there was no main event title to fight for.

Vince treats WWE programming like it's just regular TV shows where wins and losses mean nothing, title matches are just thrown together and who wins or loses often doesn't really matter. If anything brings down WWE, it won't be a rival promotion, at least not without Vince giving them constant ammunition to use against him with his outdated view points and booking.