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    I don't understand the "Lamar chokes in the playoffs" narrative. He's 23 and just finished his second season.

    Others QBs who didn't win a playoff game in their first 2 seasons - Troy Aikman, Terry Bradshaw, Brett Favre, John Elway, Dan Fouts, Jim Kelly, Joe Montana, Warren Moon, Ken Stabler, Roger Staubach, Steve Young, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Tony Romo, Aaron Rodgers, Matt Ryan. These guys did alright.

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    People love to talk in generalities. Even if Lamar Jackson loses 7 playoff games in a row, the odds of it being just his fault are slim because, shocker, football is a team sport. Dude racked up like, 500 total yards against a very good Titans team last year but, of course, it's all his fault they lost that game. Same crap that basketball players face. Lebron's apparently not great because he's lost 6 times in the Finals. Harden's not a superstar because he couldn't get past the Warriors. And from an opposing perspective, Eli Manning's apparently a Hall of Famer because he's won two Super Bowls. Everything's generalized because it makes headlines. The reality that teams lose/win games and not individual players is boring. That's why nobody talks about it.

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    The Ravens also got beat by a red hot Titans team, it all wasn't his fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BestSportsEntertainer View Post
    I don't understand the "Lamar chokes in the playoffs" narrative. He's 23 and just finished his second season.

    Others QBs who didn't win a playoff game in their first 2 seasons - Troy Aikman, Terry Bradshaw, Brett Favre, John Elway, Dan Fouts, Jim Kelly, Joe Montana, Warren Moon, Ken Stabler, Roger Staubach, Steve Young, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Tony Romo, Aaron Rodgers, Matt Ryan. These guys did alright.
    I?m curious if this includes the fact that Steve Young and Aaron Rodgers rode the bench their first 2 years. Or did Young play in Tampa? Either way, I don?t know where you?re hearing this rhetoric, but it?s stupid. He doesn?t have enough of a professional career to have a reputation. And if anyone lost that game, it was their run defense.

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    People love to talk in generalities. Even if Lamar Jackson loses 7 playoff games in a row, the odds of it being just his fault are slim because, shocker, football is a team sport. Dude racked up like, 500 total yards against a very good Titans team last year but, of course, it's all his fault they lost that game. Same crap that basketball players face. Lebron's apparently not great because he's lost 6 times in the Finals. Harden's not a superstar because he couldn't get past the Warriors. And from an opposing perspective, Eli Manning's apparently a Hall of Famer because he's won two Super Bowls. Everything's generalized because it makes headlines. The reality that teams lose/win games and not individual players is boring. That's why nobody talks about it.
    Eli Manning is not a hall of famer. He?s only as celebrated as he is because he stopped the big bad Patriots twice, once going undefeated.

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    Goodbye Kennedy Brooks. Looks like Rhondre Stevenson will get the starting nod for OU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Marshall Bill View Post

    Eli Manning is not a hall of famer. He?s only as celebrated as he is because he stopped the big bad Patriots twice, once going undefeated.
    That's my point. Most analysts say he's a HOFer (and you know he's getting in) based solely on the fact that he won two Super Bowls and beat an undefeated Pats team. They always say Eli beat Brady twice and pretty much dismiss everybody else. There's no real argument otherwise as to him being in the Hall of Fame. It's ridiculous, but that's the nature of sports discussion nowadays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OYDK View Post
    That's my point. Most analysts say he's a HOFer (and you know he's getting in) based solely on the fact that he won two Super Bowls and beat an undefeated Pats team. They always say Eli beat Brady twice and pretty much dismiss everybody else. There's no real argument otherwise as to him being in the Hall of Fame. It's ridiculous, but that's the nature of sports discussion nowadays.
    Not sure who you?re listening to, but most I listen to either say no, or have more arguments against it than for. I can?t see why it would?ve been a topic recently, but I?ve also ignored most sports shows the last few months because they didn?t have any sports to talk about.

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    Eli Manning belongs in the Hall of Fame. The GIANTS Hall of Fame.

    Not the Pro Football Hall of Fame. He was a solid QB.



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    LSU is looking pretty terrible with how they handled Derrius Guice.

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