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Thread: Star Wars Prequels (Not Bad At All)

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    I'm also on the fence on the new trilogy. I think my love of the franchise can be blinding me because I want the films to be great when they clearly aren't (at times.).

    Force Awakens was too much of a retelling of New Hope's core ideas. You could almost view it as a remake. But that's not to say that I enjoyed a handful of scenes. Seeing the Millenium Falcon taking off and dragging through the city before getting chased by TIE fighters was outstanding for example. Kylo Ren seemed like our new Darth Vader....but then he took his mask off and he looked like a soft teenager with anger issues. Rey slowly learns the force throughout the movie then is victorious in all her encounters, I like her character, I like the actress playing her, I think shes a good actress....just a bit too Mary Sue for my liking. Let her lose once. She should of lost at the end and lucked out with the ground splitting them apart. Star Killer base was stupid as hell. Just too hard to picture this planet sized base where people can bump into each other by chance. Harrison Ford's old version of Han Solo was uninspired and he didn't seem like he was interested in what he was doing compared to the original trilogy. Bright spots are the new characters Finn and Poe Dameron.

    Last Jedi was a fairly big disappointment. Luke was out of character and his whole storyline set up in Force Awakens was pissed to the wind. He left behind a map to find him.....just so he could cut himself off from the force and act like all is lost. Doesn't make a lick of sense. Opening space battle was good. I really didn't mind the whole movie being The First Order trying to charge over The Rebels in a long chase either, it led to a fun moment that was visually stunning in theatres where Holdo goes into Hyperspace to take out half the fleet. Makes you wonder why that move wasn't thought of in all the movies, could have saved some time. Death Star? No problem, send a bunch of droids in ships and have them all run through it with Hyperspace. The throne room fight was cool but that leads me to another WTF moment in this movie. They just offed one of the most powerful force users in the lore in Snoke. He effortlessly tossed Rey around with the force, manipulated their thoughts across the galaxy, sent Kylo Ren flying in one stroke of force lightning. Yet in the end, in this movie, he gets tricked and cut in half halfway in the movie like they just said Fuck This Guy. No payoff, what was the whole point of Snoke then? Finns new gal pal is awful, and no, thats not being racist. Her character sucks, her acting is forced wood and every scene she was in was bad. The whole WORTHLESS sidequest to the casino seemed like a different movie all together, really bad. Only somewhat saved by Del Toro's character, who I liked. Phasma dies in a fight with Finn, who are saved by another stupid BB8 thing where he controls an AT ST, groan. Give us a balance please, is this a kids movie or are we going to take some kind of seriousness to these situations. BB8 seems to be only there to try and fill the R2D2 void but add Nickolodian comedy to it so the kids can laugh, theres nothing wrong with that but it gets pushed too much with him in my opinion. Luke saves everyone with an illusion trick then dies because fuck him right? Even Mark Hamil hated Luke in this movie and hated the nature of his death. So Last Jedi was a bad movie with great visuals.
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    Adding to my Last Jedi rant: How could I forget the dumbest scene in any Star Wars film to date? Princess Leia gets sucked out to space following a major explosion on the bridge (R.I.P Ackbar that they couldn't be bothered to show on screen) resulting in her opening her eyes in space, then flying through the debris back to the ship. Everyone in the theater laughed including me, it looked so stupid.
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    The "realism" critiques of Star Wars films always makes me laugh. It's unreal.

    People tend to love what they saw first. Younger fans saw I-III, older fans saw IV-VI. I don't think any of them are necessarily great, but the story is awesome. Hayden was bad, but it's not like anyone would confuse Mark Hamill with Marlon Brando, either. I understand that seems blasphemous to you hardcore Star Wars fans, but Hamill has always been a way better voice actor than he was on screen.

    The Last Jedi caught far too much heat from hardcore fans. It was almost crybaby level. IT WASN'T EXACTLY WHAT I PLANNED OUT IN MY MIND, SO IT SUCKZZ! Insanity. It was a damn solid movie.

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