"Ladies and Gentleman!"
"Ladies and Gentleman!"
"Ladies and Gentleman!"
"Ladies and Gentleman!"
"Ladies and Gentleman!"
"Ladies and Gentleman!"
"Ladies and Gentleman!"
"Ladies and Gentleman!"
"Ladies and Gentleman!"
"Ladies and Gentleman!"
"Would you bring your attention to me."
3 time WZCW Champion!
Showtime wins! Showtime wins! Showtime wins!
"For a feast for your eyes to see"
WZCW Elite X Chamion!
Showtime survives the iron man match and wins!
"An explosion of catastrophe"
2 Time EurAsian Champion!
A legend continues to grow.
"Like nothing you've ever seen before"
Mayham champion! Tag Team champion!
Showtime does it again!
"Watch closely as I open this door"
Lethal Lottery Winner!
Showtime hangs on, he's won it!
"Your jaw will be on the floor"
Grand Slam Champion!
He's done it all in WZCW!
"After this you'll be begging for more"
Hall of Famer
What'll he do for an encore?
"Welcome to the Show. Please come inside. Boom! Do you want it? Boo!m Do you need it? Boom!"
"Ladies and Gentleman"
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Baldwinson: Gooooooood morning, afternoon, evening, whatever time it is there where you happening to be living and listening to this podcast. I am your host of the Gorilla Kayfabe, David Baldwinson, and ladies and gentleman, and there is no pun intended there, we have a very very special guest with us today joining us before the big WZCW farewell show to talk all sort about his career and his time with the company. He is a man who needs to introduction so I am not going to give him the satisfaction of an over the top introduction that he might rightly deserve. Say hello to our listeners.
Cougar: Hello to all my viewers out and the people that would rather change the channel, I know you're listening too. Thank you.
Baldwinson: Of course for anyone who has been living under a rock these past 10 years or has accidently stumbled upon my ring of wonders, my guest is one of the greatest of all time in WZCW Showtime David Cougar. Thank you being on here.
Cougar: Pleasure is all mine. This fits right in under community service, right. Maybe we can write this off as volunteer work on my taxes.
Baldwinson: You're too modest about the quality of my charitable organization I run here keeping Hall of Famers like yourself in relevance. But jabs aside, I had my team compile a list of your many accomplishments in WZCW. I thought they brought me a list of Post Malone tatoos. Look at this, 3 time WZCW Champion, Lethal Lottery, Main evented Kingdom Come twice. You know what, we should just post this list on the website instead of doing the show and we can spend the rest of the time instead snapping selfies and trading headlocks. You cool with that?
Cougar: Cool as a cucumber. Just be sure to share that out there, twitter, Instagram, whatever app just was created. Let the universe know.
Baldwinson: Cool beans, but we ain't letting you off that easy. Now the big story, WZCW Goodbye, the final show.
Cougar: The last ride.
Baldwinson: The final destination.
Cougar: The sun set.
Baldwinson: Sianara Koopasara.
Cougar: The swan song.
Baldwinson: Consecrated Banishment.
Cougar: The Final Act.
Baldwinson: I'm sure there is a lot of emotion swirling around inside of you, as someone who was with the company early on as it struggled to gain any traction before it did explode into a national powerhouse.
Cougar: Yea even though I have been outside of it for a number of years it is pretty surreal that it's all going to be over. There were a lot of real lean years early on. A lot on inconsistencies and propped up paper champions. As I recall at one point the place was being run by reformed convicts
Baldwinson: Prison Life.
Cougar: It was a reak time out back then. It's really though a credit to all the wrestlers and all the backstage staff who came together and worked on and continued to build. There's a lot of great names that are responsible for a lot of great things that occurred in WZCW and there is always a special place in my heart for being able to help be a part of that.
Baldwinson: Rough times certainly led to rough beginnings for you. I hear that early on you thought of packing it in and heading back to Hollywood before ever winning a match.
Cougar: Yea, I remember my debut match. Freaking 5 way they called it. I did well, go plenty of offense in, but I wasn't the guy the company had prospect in early. Was some other guy, Anoki I thing, great writer, er, wrester. Never had the passion though for it. I lost to him and then I floated around in the tag circuit. Seemed to be going no where and then when they made a new belt and it seemed like I would get a shot I lost early in the tournament. There seemed like a lack of direction at times and the match times we were given gave us nothing to prove.
Baldwinson: What made you stick it out?
Cougar: Great respect I had for the head of creative. There seemed to be great chances out there for me and I just had to get around and start taking them. Art is always a work in progress.
Baldwinson: What led to your first big break?
Cougar: Honestly, it was Plinko and convincing a former Mayhem champion in Milenko to stand in my corner. Creative at the time loved the idea, and I think Drake Callahan was nursing some injury of sorts, he liked to party back then, so they wanted to hide that from the audience and put the Mayhem title on me. After a mini feud with Milenko, I was competing against Drake and Ty Burna at the next PPV for two titles.
Baldwinson: Of course, another important part of development is character and perhaps Showtime, like most wrestlers who start, was a tad standard and basic. And then came the chair.
Cougar: Yes, I have no idea who found that chair, but when I sat in it and spoke to the camera, I was home. And from there we added a desk, because what else would you put in front of a chair, and then we added a stage, and lights, and a band, and all sorts of other props were included, and suddenly we had The Show, where I'd talk about WZCW, and my opponents, and pop culture, and whatever the heck I thought would draw or sell, and the funny part is, you know, I grew up in Hollywood around the entertainment industry, one thing I hated though was talk shows. Honestly I never ever watched them and seldom looked to them for inspiration, but there I was on stage for WZCW,
nailing it night after night with the talk show bit. It was a stable I could fall back on when needed and because it was there it allowed me to stretch my own creativity and my own character whenever I felt it was needed. No matter what I had The Show I could fall back on.
Baldwinson: Is there a favourite episode.
Cougar: Oh god there is honestly far too many of them to narrow it down. In the achieves of WZCW.com on the old site there is a volume 1 best of edition I'm proud to have released. I'm sure you'll find a favourite there.
Baldwinson: You know many of the greatest feuds in WZCW history all seem to pass though you. Ty Burna, Big Dave, Austin Reynolds, Constantine, Barbosa, Steven Holmes, Drake Callahan, Titus. I know this may be difficult, let's say you're Batman, maybe you're Joker, but lets say you are Batman. Who's your Joker, where does everyone else fall on the Batman villain ladder.
Cougar: All of those wrestlers very good guys. All are deserving of a lot of mention, a ton of praise, and maybe a good jab or too. I think I'm going to spare some by not naming who's my cat woman or poison ivy or Mr. Freeze, and just talk about the Joker to my Batman, and I can't name anyone else really but Ty Burna. Not only was he an epically talent wrestler, but was my bar for the longest time. He push me for further greatness. We had a lot of back and forth battles and it really meant something when we faced whether in one of our heated feuds or a match that seemed like it would be our last. We always pushed each other. We were neighbours and brothers on the road.
Baldwinson: Indeed there were many great matches between you two, many great matches with all those guys. You're career has pretty well been one great match after another after another after another. Is there a favourite.
Cougar: Any of my title wins are incredible special moments. Kingdom Come 5 winning the WZCW title for a third time. My promo for that match felt like my greatest work ever. I've had some incredible matches with Austin Reynolds and putting my career on the line against Drake to win my second WZCW title still sends chills down my spine for how close I actually was to walking away needing an eventual career break. But my favourite match, which may surprise people, is my match with John Constantine at Kingdom Come. I was going in as such an under dog returning to the ring with low expectations and we turned in the match of the night, one of the best all time, and even though I lost, it was definitely one of my last and greatest highlights, showing how much I still had left. There should still be plenty more at WZCW goodbye.
Baldwinson: When you've been a part of the company for as long as you had, you do come across some screw ups and mistakes that occurred in WZCW.
Cougar: Well we did bring back Mr. Baller more than once.
Baldwinson: And gave Doug Crashin his own stable.
Cougar: And aired a promo of Ashleigh Falcon killing Judas the Babtist.
Baldwinson: What would you say was the biggest screw up that occurred during your time.
Cougar: Okay, so it's after Kingdom Come 2, the company has gone through some management change and so everyone there is now in charge of one division. The guy running Mayhem, his name was Blade, not the wrestler, he wanted to run this 24/7 rule for it. Fine, we were all on board with it and tentative plans were to run it at the next PPV. So it rolls around the guy in charge of the Elite X division is writing those matches, the guy running tag team is working on that, e.t.c, Blade, writes the world title match. No biggie there, but when the show starts and us wrestlers are looking over the card, no body wrote anything for the Mayhem match. Notta, barely a pencil mark. The creative team is in full panic running frantically to put something together before the match starts, which was early in the card. What they gave basically killed the 24/7 idea and the whole idea was shelved 2 weeks later to much fanfare.
Baldwinson: Any regrets?
Cougar: It was near the end of my time, I had a feud with someone who I agree with is a GOAT like me, like Ty, and that is Matt Tastic, and I gave a lackluster feud against him to close out a career. I had a opportunity to come back last year and didn't and wanted us to properly have a GOAT feud but that never came to fruition and it never will now. It's a shame, but that's life.
Baldwinson: I know it's late and I want to rap this up, so I'm going to throw out this last question and that's if there is anything you want to say or thank before WZCW closes the door forever.
Cougar: Oh absolutely, obviously a big shout out to everyone who is putting this last show together, and everyone past and present who has lent a hand to the creation of WZCW. This is a big deal, everyone involved had a hand in creating something special and for many the memories will last a lifetime. There are simply too many Daves to thank, and Lee, and Ty, and Falcons, and Holmes, and Stormrages, Killjoys, KO's and so so many so many more. We all fought and laughed and cried and debated and had a really good time over the years and even though many of us drifted away it's still sad to see it all end tonight, but it's still going to be an amazing show, and I can guarantee you that there will be at least one more amazing moment for WZCW, and for Showtime David Cougar. The camera's will roll, the lights will flash, and start will take his final bow.
Baldwinson: And we're all very much looking forward to it. Thank you so much for being here tonight Showtime David Cougar. Thank you to all our listeners and viewers watching. Have a save and wonderful 2020. Goodnight WZCW.