Quote Originally Posted by Jack-Hammer View Post
Sure it's historic but it's also something of a waste of time, energy and money because the Democrats don't have the votes to actually get him out of office
Doing the right thing is never a waste of time, energy or money. Do not allow Republican propaganda to trick you into believing there is ever anything wrong with doing the right thing, even if it is not for the most noble of reasons.

due to the Republicans having a small majority in the Senate. You need a majority vote in both the House and Senate in order to actually remove the POTUS from power
You actually need a 2/3rds majority for removal in Senate.

and that's not gonna happen here because the country is split down party lines like no other time in my lifetime that I can recall.
That's not the problem.

The problem is there is one party who is flatly refusing to put the country and Constitution ahead of their party (and the political power that comes with it), because they are afraid to lose their elected seats. The problem isn't partisanship, it is cowardice.

Do I think he deserves to be removed from power? Absolutely as it's been shown that Trump attempted to leverage Ukraine to launch an investigation into Joe Biden by not delivering nearly $400 million in aid to the country unless they launched said investigation.
Mostly correct...Trump never cared about an actual investigation, he just wanted a public announcement of an investigation. Small, but important, difference.

The Republicans are trying to say that nothing criminal happened here
And they are lying.

because Ukraine didn't go through with the investigation
Not arguing with you, just Republicans, but this doesn't matter. It was the attempt which was illegal.

they're saying there was no "Quid Pro Quo" because the investigation didn't happen and that there's nothing criminal in Trump's attempt
They're lying.

at least that's the stance of those who'll even acknowledge the attempt even took place because there are some who claim they don't despite all the testimony, despite transcripts of the phone calls, etc..
That's been one of my "favorite" parts. People are literally arguing with reality.

The GOP has bent over backwards to ignore the law and basic human decency when it comes to the defense of Donald Trump throughout his term
Yup.

whether it's been taking the side of dictators like Vladimir Putin & Kim Jong-Un over the word of American intelligence agencies, lashing out with childish insults at anyone who doesn't agree with him, mocking the physically disabled, mocking the appearance of women he doesn't find attractive, supporting and/or initiating policies based on racial, religious or sexual prejudice and it just goes on and on.
Yup.

The fact that so many people defend this man is beyond astounding. I grew up in a pretty conservative area, Eastern Kentucky is a haven for right wing politics and also happens to be one of the geographically poorest areas in the entire country. It's also home to a number of the poorest counties of any state in all the country and those are places that are rife with conservative politics. I've heard people venerate Donald Trump almost as though he's some kind of saint, some saying he's the best POTUS of their lifetime, etc. and I don't think it has so much to do with Trump as it's just that they so severely dislike liberal politics. Around where I grew up, if you're Pro Choice, support stricter gun laws, think efforts in energy production should be moved from fossil fuels or any or all of the above, then you're the next worse thing to Satan himself. For MANY of them, they cling to this age old propaganda that the United States is THE chosen land, that the United States is the end all and be all of creation; they don't like to acknowledge the truth in that you can be proud of your country while still not whitewashing the fact that there are NUMEROUS atrocities that's part of our history. They don't want to admit that American industry was once, and continues to be in some cases, built on the exploitation of minorities, that our ancestors to one degree or another forcibly took this land from Native tribes and the disproportionate distribution of wealth and services that's been SOP almost from the very beginning. During election time, all a GOP candidate has to do is start thumping the Bible, life begins at conception, every other country should essentially bow down to the USA, say that every Democratic candidate is out to take their guns like Beto O'Rourke would do if he cound, that they're a friend of coal and marriage should be between a man & woman only and you'll have droves of Bubbas and Billy Bobs practically flying out of the hollows and small towns to come and vote for you. Even if they don't know the issues at all, which is the case when it comes to a lot of them, they'll vote red because they're just so opposed to blue because that's what they've been taught whether it be by their parents or their pastors.
All 100% correct, except now you also have to include right wing media in the brainwashing.