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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack-Hammer View Post
    As far as WWE goes, they're going to get raked over the coals over this by internet fans, smarks, dirt sheet writers and even some other wrestling companies but, frankly, so the fuck what? That's part for the course for damn near anything they do.
    Working closely with a theocratic autocracy that executes women for being raped and homosexuals is a bit more concerning than bad wrestling or Dave Meltzer commenting on a female wrestler gaining weight.

    Sure, people overreact to stuff in this day and age, and often times, they search for a casus belli, but that doesn't mean there's never an opportunity to be actually upset with terrible decisions.

    I can't demonize WWE for doing business with the Saudis while so many mega corporations like Pepsi, Microsoft, AT&T, Coca-Cola, Ford, IBM, Holiday Inn, not to mention all the various oil companies like Chevron, Texaco, Mobil, etc.. This is the dirty side of Capitalism, it goes on every single day and these companies aren't going to throw away billions of dollars by ceasing all business relationships with the KSA. That's especially true for the oil companies because such a breakdown would pretty much start a worldwide financial meltdown. Compared to those companies, WWE is a little guy and I guess it's easier to go after the little guy in situations like this, even though the little guy is ultimately just an entertainment company.
    Maybe those businesses are wrong? I understand capitalism often results in shady dealings, and that it's the best financial model we currently have, but I think some things don't have a price tag, like human life and many of the liberties we should be thankful for having in the west that places in Saudi Arabia do not allow. In the wise words of John Stuart Mill: "That so few now dare to be eccentric, marks the chief danger of the time."

    Also, don't try to twist this into a "WWE is the little guy in this situation." This isn't a Pepsi or Microsoft forum, and for those companies obvious problems, they aren't producing what amounts to state propaganda broadcast across the entire world, with a US Mayor in the main event no less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fallout View Post
    Working closely with a theocratic autocracy that executes women for being raped and homosexuals is a bit more concerning than bad wrestling or Dave Meltzer commenting on a female wrestler gaining weight.

    Sure, people overreact to stuff in this day and age, and often times, they search for a casus belli, but that doesn't mean there's never an opportunity to be actually upset with terrible decisions.
    Allegedly, these shows are part of some sort of attempt at a more liberal social reform in Saudi Arabia the prince is undertaking, otherwise I'm not sure if even Vince would've gone through with it.



    Quote Originally Posted by Fallout View Post
    Maybe those businesses are wrong? I understand capitalism often results in shady dealings, and that it's the best financial model we currently have, but I think some things don't have a price tag, like human life and many of the liberties we should be thankful for having in the west that places in Saudi Arabia do not allow. In the wise words of John Stuart Mill: "That so few now dare to be eccentric, marks the chief danger of the time."

    Also, don't try to twist this into a "WWE is the little guy in this situation." This isn't a Pepsi or Microsoft forum, and for those companies obvious problems, they aren't producing what amounts to state propaganda broadcast across the entire world, with a US Mayor in the main event no less.
    WWE is a little guy in this situation whether you want to admit it or not. Senators, such as Lindsey Graham, have publicly stated that they'd like WWE to potentially postpone the event but, again, nobody is calling on these other companies to stop doing business with the Saudis. Why is that exactly? Holding WWE to standards that aren't applied to other American companies is, to me, just plain crap no matter what sort of forum this happens to be. Lindsey Graham wants WWE to alter its business arrangement with Saudi Arabia? Fine. If WWE decides to, that's fine too. My point is that WWE doesn't even register as a blip on the radar compared to these mega companies that make bank by doing business with the Saudis; what WWE is getting is a drop in the bucket next to them but you don't hear lawmakers going after them because, in many instances, it's the various CEOs and executives of these Fortune 500 companies that keep Washington politicians in business.

    If Vince calls the show off, more power to him. If he's able to call off the rest of the Saudi deal and does, I've got no problem with that. I just don't see why WWE should be held ot a higher standard then damn near the rest of corporate America.
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