Is the DCEU Dead??

[Slyfox696]

If it's not dead, it's not likely to get better.

Above all else, the movies haven't been fun. Man of Steel was a bunch of violence and, aside from Wonder Woman, almost everything else has been dark and brooding. There's very little inviting to bring you into the fold and when that's your beginning, not much else is going to work.

The whole thing was going to be based on Batman and Superman. They're the biggest superheroes of all time and no matter what else anyone did, the two of them were going to be what mattered most. Superman was a disaster and dragged Batman down with him, leaving us with nothing interesting until Wonder Woman showed up in a great movie. Aside from that though, everything is dark and messy with everything being serious instead of fun. Comic books can be dark, but you have to have a good time too. That's not the case with the DCEU.

That's what Marvel did so well. They got quality actors, but more importantly, the movies are fun. There are feels in them, but the movies are a great time.

[Lee]

That's what Marvel did so well. They got quality actors, but more importantly, the movies are fun. There are feels in them, but the movies are a great time.

Funnily enough Miller said he regreted some of the dark tones in his comics for that reason.

[Big Nick Dudley]

I don't think a darker tone is what hurts DC. I think they just made some bad films. I really think it is that simple.

[Jack-Hammer]

I don't think a darker tone is what hurts DC. I think they just made some bad films. I really think it is that simple.

I agree. I didn't particularly find Man of Steel, Batman v. Superman or Justice League dark, I just thought they ultimately weren't very well made movies. They substituted CGI for character development and story and it bit them in the ass. An example of a truly dark comic book film is Logan, which is easily the darkest superhero movie I've seen. Even though it's not part of the MCU, Logan was a fantastic film, critics loved it, movie goers heartily embraced it and it currently has the 4th highest grossing worldwide total for an R rated movie. Going dark can work if the rest of the elements for a great movie are there.

[SSJPhenom]

I'm still of the mindset that had WB released the Ultimate version of Batman V. Superman then we might be having a different conversation regarding the DCEU today. I hated the theatrical version but I'm telling you, for the 50th time, the Ultimate version is great. It's like a completely different film from the theatrical version.

[Big Nick Dudley]

And not to really start a debate, I thought the Ultimate version was even worse. Just longer and even more boring. Their biggest mistake was Snyder.

[SSJPhenom]

I'll agree 100% that their issue was with going with Snyder. He was just the wrong choice for something like this. I respect your opinion on the Ultimate Edition, however, I thought the Ultimate Edition was fantastic. It had clearer explanations and motivations for the characters and focused equally on both Batman and Superman instead of just Batman like the theatrical version did.

[Lee]

Having seen Aquaman you can all suck my balls. Was amazing fun and what a superhero movie should be.

[Big Nick Dudley]

Now give Henry Cavill another solo movie with a good filmmaker. Cavill is not the problem.

[Fire Marshall Bill]

Having seen Aquaman you can all suck my balls. Was amazing fun and what a superhero movie should be.

Not going to suck your balls. Iâ??m seeing it tomorrow. Iâ??ve only heard good things. At the very least, it looks like itâ??ll be fun.